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1/22/2013 18:08:07   
RetroReactive
Member

Hi guys. I think that Blood Lust should be nerfed because it gives BM and BH an unfair advantage in battle because every time they attack it gives them health! To be fair, I think that Blood Lust should give the player 1 hp each time it is upgraded. So, if its maxed, its 10 hp. Please support if you agree!

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AQW Epic  Post #: 1
1/22/2013 18:27:47   
Blaze The Aion Ender
Member

If it were changed to be every time they attack, they gain 10 hp, it would make extreme tank builds OP...
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 2
1/22/2013 19:09:42   
RetroReactive
Member

What do you mean if "it were changed to be every time they attack"? Its already when you attack you gain hp.. but its still good, because, of course, people block sometimes.
AQW Epic  Post #: 3
1/22/2013 19:13:51   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 What Blaze means is that if it stays how it is where each attack gives health back then it would be OPd because they'd always get 10 back even if they hit like 3.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 4
1/22/2013 19:14:45   
RetroReactive
Member

Oh then how about 10% divided by the amount of damage the person does?
AQW Epic  Post #: 5
1/22/2013 19:18:36   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 Then it only helps out builds that deal high damage and only them. A 100 damage would only get you 10 health which isn't much. But now that I think of it, health will be more vital in Omega along with energy so they will be needing fixed soon lest it causes problems.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 6
1/22/2013 19:19:32   
Xendran
Member

quote:

Oh then how about 10% divided by the amount of damage the person does?



...This makes no sense. You would gain 0.1 hp back every time.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 7
1/22/2013 19:19:36   
Ranloth
Banned


 It's fine as it is right now.. Likelyhood of BL getting changed in Omega is high due to change in stats (1 HP/stat). Likewise with Reroute in my opinion. Balance will be shifted in Omega, greatly.
AQ Epic  Post #: 8
1/22/2013 19:20:43   
RetroReactive
Member

quote:

This makes no sense. You would gain 0.1 hp back every time. I meant to put down 40%.
AQW Epic  Post #: 9
1/22/2013 19:25:22   
Xendran
Member

quote:

I meant to put down 40%.


0.4hp every time then. You can't just divide the number by itself like you did.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 10
1/22/2013 19:26:37   
Ranloth
Banned


 Xendran, ED's system rounds numbers up so 0.1 would be 1 HP, 1.1 would be 2 HP, etc. I still say, wait until Omega. Only week at most left.
AQ Epic  Post #: 11
1/22/2013 19:28:32   
hijinks
Member

What they need to change is strength not bloodlust itself.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 12
1/22/2013 19:29:55   
Xendran
Member

quote:

Xendran, ED's system rounds numbers up so 0.1 would be 1 HP, 1.1 would be 2 HP, etc. I still say, wait until Omega. Only week at most left.


That's got nothing to do with it. It would literally be .01 (or 0.4 in the case of 40%) hp every time regardless of how much damage is dealt, because his formula has a number dividing by itself.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 13
1/22/2013 19:31:52   
Mother1
Member

Not supported. just because one build is using it better then the rest you want to nerf it for all of them? Why not find a solution that would deal with that one build instead of trying to hurt all builds that use it?
Epic  Post #: 14
1/22/2013 19:34:49   
Stabilis
Member

If you divide a number by another number equal to or greater than 3 the quotient is always going to be less than the value of the first number.
AQ Epic  Post #: 15
1/22/2013 19:41:57   
Blaze The Aion Ender
Member

@Mother1
He never complained about a specific build
I myself would like it nerfed for both focus and strength, because honestly, with the Android which 90% of focus builds use, it heals too much health, and not to mention BM's bludgeon and gun as well

@Below
Don't get me wrong, I don't support this either
I just think it needs a nerf

< Message edited by Blaze The Aion Ender -- 1/24/2013 18:51:46 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 16
1/22/2013 19:45:12   
Mother1
Member

@ Blaze

Now that I am looking at it again I still don't support this idea. To be honest this isn't even a nerf it is a buff. Because most moves don't even heal you for 10 health with the exceptions of massacre at a high level, infernal android close to fully powered, and possible rage. This would OP the lower levels.
Epic  Post #: 17
1/23/2013 10:11:37   
Remorse
Member

Blood lust is fine,

If its gotta be changed it would be a lowering of the lifesteal %'s and not changed to give a fixed amount each time which would cause devastating effects on balance.

For example a BH that spams defenses has low attacks yet gets 10hp back every time.... Way too overpowered.


Epic  Post #: 18
1/24/2013 4:50:10   
TRizZzCENTRINO
Member

bloodlust is fine as it is, its the strength spamming with enhancements that caused the problem in the first place.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 19
1/24/2013 7:12:34   
13891389aaaaa
Member
 

 Its over damaged items ( such as IA) and 120+ stat builds that cause the problem - fixed in Omega.
But if you want a change so badly then leave BL as it is, and add max hp gain that is equal to the skills level.
It basically how it works anyway until you get 70dmg massacre or 60dmg IA- bludgeon.
Post #: 20
1/24/2013 8:59:20   
theholyfighter
Member

Perhaps a lowering on its percentages.
AQW Epic  Post #: 21
1/24/2013 20:58:50   
Emptiness
Member
 

 You should change the title to bloodlust nerf, seeing as how bloodlust nerfed is past tense, which would indicate that bloodlust has already been nerfed and to my knowledge it has not been nerfed.

< Message edited by Emptiness -- 1/24/2013 21:07:13 >
Post #: 22
1/24/2013 21:42:37   
sleddyboy3
Member

I suggest raising the percentage, but making it like Shock Charge, a 1 hit that gains hp back, but with a max of 35-40%?
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 23
1/25/2013 1:23:55   
Remorse
Member

^

And destroy any other build that isnt str??


No thank you....


anyway I agree with trizz its the enhancements that make bloodlust over the top, but since its going so should any problem you guys have with Bloodlust.
Epic  Post #: 24
1/25/2013 1:34:40   
theholyfighter
Member

^That kind of meant that some CH builds are ruined due to the way Static Charge works...

< Message edited by theholyfighter -- 1/25/2013 1:35:14 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 25
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