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3/2/2013 14:16:35   
J.U.S.T.I.C.E.
Member

I know I can't play, but I have done my research! Yes I am a BH and Yes I know your wondering "how does he know this?"

The BH's Bloodlust had become a little too good in my opinion. What about you though?

What do you think?

Discuss!
AQW Epic  Post #: 1
3/2/2013 14:22:11   
Calogero
Member

BloodLust buff was not needed...
You only need 6 on BloodLust to get the same effect as before the update, which required a lvl 10 back then.

the Difference between the lvl 6 and lvl 10 is about 2 - 3 health...
So yea those 4 skill points can be used somewhere else...


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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 2
3/2/2013 14:24:22   
ThePriest
Member
 

Completely unbalanced,,, BH strongest then I would say CH.
Before this update, it was more balanced.
Merc ran hard on 2vs2 with his support.
Tech Mage and CH ran hard on his support on 1vs1.
= 3 classes was very good there.
Now there are two classes that are good.
So do not understand why people are happy?

Dare I complain more? Yup I do :)
I just became a free player and we have VIP!!!
(ThePriest get a warning and them remove the post.)

< Message edited by ThePriest -- 3/2/2013 14:26:14 >
Post #: 3
3/2/2013 14:26:20   
J.U.S.T.I.C.E.
Member

Priest I and you are like one [This post will get deleted LOL]
AQW Epic  Post #: 4
3/2/2013 14:26:24   
Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned


Dont agree, bh and bm were terrible before this buff.
Did you ever see a good BM or BH before friday??

Only in 2vs2, for 1vs1 it was a terrible class.
This is the buff it needed!
Epic  Post #: 5
3/2/2013 14:28:55   
Calogero
Member

I am a BloodMage... been a BloodMage for years.
This Buff was Not needed. If you wanted to Buff BM and BH
Make Resistance scaling go up again and scale Defences to that...

All in All, I did a lot better in Delta than I'm doing now
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 6
3/2/2013 14:30:53   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

You make a good point, I've been running into Blood Mages with 120+ HP, 85+ str, with lvl 6 blood lust, max bludgeon, max field medic, and remaining points in deadly aim. They usually have the Azraels Will Gun too so that makes it worst because they force you too strike.
AQW Epic  Post #: 7
3/2/2013 14:35:05   
Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned


quote:

All in All, I did a lot better in Delta than I'm doing now

Every single varium player did -.-

quote:

Make Resistance scaling go up again and scale Defences to that.

This will OP tank builds even more since str and sup both got nerfed alot
Epic  Post #: 8
3/2/2013 14:38:54   
Calogero
Member

quote:

This will OP tank builds even more since str and sup both got nerfed alot


This would weaken SPAM builds a bit due to how much damage they can unleash for little energy cost

< Message edited by Calogero -- 3/2/2013 14:39:12 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
3/2/2013 14:46:32   
Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned


quote:

This would weaken SPAM builds a bit due to how much damage they can unleash for little energy cost

It would weaken spam builds, but would buff every other build there exists
Epic  Post #: 10
3/2/2013 14:49:34   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


Fireball and blood lust got buffed, as well as the fact that strike damage was reduced (which actually means a slight buff in terms of usefulness of fireball), so now strength BM is back to being fairly strong. Also, you only need level 6 blood lust to get the previous blood lust's max HP drain effect. BHs were amazing before this before when they were focus, and now they're even more overpowered. The fact that they can stack a debuff with a high HP-recovering passive based off of damage is too much, so I'm thinking that blood lust needs to either be returned to its original value, or that smoke should be nerfed.
Epic  Post #: 11
3/2/2013 14:51:04   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

The technology nerf was unnecessary, I saw no one complaining about their being a problem with tech other then the Tech/Support Mages. But since Support has been nerfed, malf has been nerfed, and plasma bolt has been nerfed. I no longer see the problem.
AQW Epic  Post #: 12
3/2/2013 14:56:15   
Yo son
Member

stop complaining already!
Post #: 13
3/2/2013 14:58:10   
Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned


quote:

or that smoke should be nerfed.

Its exactly the same as malf...
Its just the combo of smoke-bl
If a class had malf-bl then it would be the same -.-
Epic  Post #: 14
3/2/2013 15:01:33   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


Dex is a superior stat to tech, especially considering the recent tech nerf. Block stacks with shadow, negates 100% of blocakble attacks, cap is an absurdly high rate of 35%, and dex scales insanely fast with block chance.
Epic  Post #: 15
3/2/2013 15:02:57   
kosmo
Member
 

It s not he bh to be op, it s the deflections and expecially the blocks that are just too many, maby if they introduce cores to apply on each wep that reduce your chance to block/deflect the problem would be solved.
Epic  Post #: 16
3/2/2013 15:09:55   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


I think they should just remove ALL the luck-based passive cores which are always available (not the ones on promos, just the ones anyone can get at any time), and fix up shadow arts to actually be something that doesn't judge the winner of the fight based off of luck. I would also be quite satisfied if max block chance was lowered to 25% like deflection is.
Epic  Post #: 17
3/2/2013 15:12:33   
beastmo
Member

The game is getting worse and worse each update all cause of complainers like you. And you wonder why the staff always make a OPed class or nerf a class. Its cause of complainers like yourself and others above. Epicduel will never find balance with complainers.

< Message edited by beastmo -- 3/2/2013 15:13:06 >
Epic  Post #: 18
3/2/2013 15:19:19   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Penguin Remove all luck-based passive cores? For real? What do you expect for them to put in place of them? Luck in this game is OP, that's true, but a game completely devoid of luck is a boring one. If every single battle went exactly according to plan it wouldn't be much fun.
AQW Epic  Post #: 19
3/2/2013 15:21:59   
Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned


^ Agreed
Epic  Post #: 20
3/3/2013 1:08:14   
NDB
Member

^ Just no. Those skill cores are jacked up.
Epic  Post #: 21
3/3/2013 1:15:19   
Giras Wolfe
Member

I've yet to see any evidence of this in my dueling.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 22
3/3/2013 18:11:02   
zer00x
Member

A bh healed 18 using IA... its ridiculous they basically get a heal without energy
AQW  Post #: 23
3/3/2013 18:32:40   
ReinVI
Member

@ Zer00x ok.. so it's op that they healed 18 hp on a bot that's special you have to wait 6+ turns to even think of doing enough damage to regain that much hp? maybe if builds had better
defenses then they wouldn't do as much damage and consequently BH would not regain as much health hm?
Epic  Post #: 24
3/3/2013 19:07:12   
Mother1
Member

@ penguin

Then that would also mean massive strike, mark of azreal, and lucky strike would be going as well since these also work with luck. They would also have to refund everyone's money who brought those items as well.
Epic  Post #: 25
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