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3/22/2013 20:45:22

Dual Thrusters
Member

@ zero

85% damage could still hit pretty high. I use it just for an unblockable when i need to pressure my opponent. Guess what? It's like any Ultimate move but weaker with the 3 turn warm-up

AQW

Epic

Post #: 51

3/22/2013 20:49:49

Ranloth
Banned

But at the same time, you have Aux and Gun as unblockable. And possible cores. And skills.

Epic

Post #: 52

3/22/2013 21:44:23

SouL Prisoner
Member

I'm glad IA was finally shown its place. I mean cmon, how much superior can a non varium bot be?? And in delta, every noob had it :l

Anyways, does anybody has the pic to how the new sickle looks like??

P.S : are the Frysteland missions removed(yeti evolving)?? Please tell me no, please tell me no :D

< Message edited by SOuL Prisnor -- 3/22/2013 21:48:32 >

AQW

Epic

Post #: 53

3/22/2013 22:32:19

Silver Sky Magician
Member

Wait, so can you use the normal attack after using the special?

Post #: 54

3/22/2013 22:42:44

STRUT MY MUTT
Member

It's not fair that the IA special be limited to one turn. That's not how I bought it.

Rabblefroth if you are reading this, please compromise a little. Let the energy attack be usable again, but only at 100% damage.

Thank you for your consideration.

Post #: 55

3/22/2013 22:52:30

Silver Sky Magician
Member

^

'That's not how I bought it' that's not a valid argument. IA shouldn't be a replacement for Gamma Bot. Speaking as an IA user, I'm glad they nerfed it this way. Makes it a lot more tactical.

Post #: 56

3/22/2013 23:17:44

King FrostLich
Member

Well, you people complained and I wouldn't mind IA gets nerfed. Besides, doesn't this mean juggernaut gets slightly easier considering 2 people who are 5 focus won't be able to spam the bot? Either way, Gamma Bot only got one buff which is it's special attack getting deflectable than blockable

Epic	Post #: 57

3/23/2013 7:05:47

Lycan.
Member

quote:

Rabblefroth if you are reading this, please compromise a little. Let the energy attack be usable again, but only at 100% damage.

No we don't want it to steal the Gamma bots special do we now?
Gamma bot costed us 2200 var or promo and this IA costed 14k but now 25k so it wouldn't be fair on those with gamma bots.

Epic	Post #: 58

3/23/2013 7:13:30

Ranloth
Banned

25K Credits or 500 Varium even, Lycan. It was never said IA was meant to be like Gamma. Special attacks that have abilities are meant to be once per battle - Yeti has Chomp, Pyro Fly has Laser that disables one of the top 3 skills, and all useable once per battle. IA's effect is higher damage. And problem is for them that it's also deflectable, but so is Pyro Fly's special. Yeti's isn't but that one has lower damage instead.

Let's see.. Players who relied a lot on IA will rant like crazy and those who have some common sense (and used it) as well as those who didn't use it and perceived it as OP, will be happy from the change.

Epic

Post #: 59

3/23/2013 7:13:48

comicalbike
Member

nerf nerf nerf

< Message edited by comicalbike -- 3/23/2013 8:47:28 >

Epic	Post #: 60

3/23/2013 7:14:02

ansh0
Member

Then make all bots fair.

All specials use-able only once a battle.

No exceptions.

NOTE: I am an Omega Yeti user

Epic	Post #: 61

3/23/2013 7:20:13

Ranloth
Banned

Gamma Bot has Physical and Energy attack, they aren't specials since Gamma Bot was meant to be a damaging bot nor it has any other effect. Therefore it's fine now.

Epic

Post #: 62

3/23/2013 7:26:02

Mother1
Member

@ ansh0

Infernal android got this nerf because it was OP. That much power being reusable without consequence is vastly OP. Not the bot is think before you use the laser and is balanced. However just because this bot's special was made one time use doesn't mean all bots should be like this. The Assault bot's special is a good example of this since if it was made 1 time use than all someone would need to do is debuff that person a second time and the bot wouldn't be able to help them. So this idea of yours very bad one.

Epic	Post #: 63

3/23/2013 7:31:38

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned

quote:

Gamma bot costed us 2200 var or promo and this IA costed 14k but now 25k so it wouldn't be fair on those with gamma bots.

And because you paid 2200 var for it it should just be the most OP bot of all-time.

Oke well lack balance then and make the golden yeti +20 dmg with a unblockable hit every single time, why?
Because i deserved it because i was 10th.

Your statements are false lycan within the least.
Just because you paid a certain price for it should not mean it can be OP compared to every other bot.
All bots should be equal in a certain way, gamma bot stands out of the rest.

They need to nerf it and i will find a solution to do it without making it useless

< Message edited by Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -- 3/23/2013 7:32:08 >

Epic	Post #: 64

3/23/2013 7:35:33

Ranloth
Banned

Implying that Gamma Bot is OPed because IA was nerfed? Remember when all the Bots were rebalanced, yes? Rabble took care if it, right? It isn't OP. If you're an IA user and are angry at the change, it's quite a bias statement to claim that Gamma Bot is OPed only because you cannot spam at 140% damage. >.>

Epic

Post #: 65

3/23/2013 7:37:51

Lycan.
Member

quote:

And because you paid 2200 var for it it should just be the most OP bot of all-time.

When did i say that? What i was saying is that a bot that costs 500 vs one that costed 2200 var should not have the same specials or it wouldnt be fair on the people who bought Gamma bot.

Epic	Post #: 66

3/23/2013 7:39:31

ansh0
Member

You get more rarity.

Epic	Post #: 67

3/23/2013 7:42:32

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned

@ Trans
Actually i have never used IA after Omega -.-

Due to the changes to IA, gamma bot has more advantages then every other bot in this game:
- Repeatable special effect which deals dmg and does not rely on the opponent (Bio Borg can repeat it, but its specials relies on the opponent)
- Special always deals 100% dmg
- Only a 3 turn cooldown
- No warm-up
- Does not require a certain thing to make the special effective (except technology/focus lvl ofcourse) like bio borg and the yetis do.

So Trans, Gamma bot is OP and always was, only because IA came close to it made it less visible.

But hey, ofcourse you and lycan will say its not OP, you got it

@ Lycan
You said this a page back:

quote:

But Gamma bot was like this all the time and they can't just change a bot which has stayed the same for about 2 years just to make it par with another bot (IA)

That right there says it should not get nerfed, which means it will stay OP for all-time

< Message edited by Blitzex/Sr. Zeph -- 3/23/2013 7:45:08 >

Epic	Post #: 68

3/23/2013 7:43:31

Lycan.
Member

@ ansh That doesn't make it fair for a 500 var bot to steal gammas special also infernal androids special is meant to be based off of the delta vault thing so giving it Gamma bots special would just be stupid.

< Message edited by Lycan. -- 3/23/2013 7:44:10 >

Epic	Post #: 69

3/23/2013 7:45:04

ansh0
Member

^What about the old rusted assault bot and normal assault bot?

Rusted was free while you had to pay for Assault bot(tokens count)

< Message edited by ansh0 -- 3/23/2013 7:46:46 >

Epic	Post #: 70

3/23/2013 7:49:25

Lycan.
Member

No one ever complained about Gamma bot until after this release.
All the IA abusers got what they deserved also they are just jelous that IA got a Nerf but Gamma didn't because it didn't need it and is it was OP i think that it would have been nerfed long before Delta.

Epic	Post #: 71

3/23/2013 7:51:28

ansh0
Member

^I love how you ignore what I said.

I didn't use IA since I got my Yeti about 2 weeks ago and still I feel that they overshot with this one.

I can say the same for you, you had been jealous that some other bot had overtaken your "precious" Gamma Bot.
You complained, IA got nerfed.

We complain, GB should be nerfed,no? With that logic.

Epic	Post #: 72

3/23/2013 7:56:32

Lycan.
Member

no actually i had IA before the nerf but i sold it anyway because i didn;t like it even thought it was better than gamma bot and no i never complained about the IA..

I wouldn't mind if they put IA back to how it was because it got nerfed too bad but i just don't want gama bot to be nerfed because it never needed it.
Maybe they are making it UP so they can make up for the next week's daily update, but i really that all it needed was 85-130% damage nothing more. The 3 turn warmup was just useless because it can still be effective in the first 3 rounds especially if you are going against a dex build. The special should probably have a 4 turn cooldown but useable over and not just once maybe that would make it a useful bot.

< Message edited by Lycan. -- 3/23/2013 8:03:15 >

Epic	Post #: 73

3/23/2013 8:00:06

ansh0
Member

STILL IA had lower base dmg compared to Gamma.

What do you say about that?

Epic	Post #: 74

3/23/2013 8:01:41

Blitzex/Sr. Zeph
Banned

quote:

No one ever complained about Gamma bot until after this release.
All the IA abusers got what they deserved also they are just jelous that IA got a Nerf but Gamma didn't because it didn't need it and is it was OP i think that it would have been nerfed long before Delta.

No one did because there was a way worse robot at that time, called Infernal android.
Now that IA has been nerfed, gamma bot stands out once again.

And when i look at your forum account, it is made on 31/12/2012.
So you cant possible now many people complained about this robot right here in the forums in the past.
Which makes your statement also invalid

Epic	Post #: 75

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