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4/6/2013 4:14:05   
theholyfighter
Member

First of all, apologies for those other threads about SC. I'll try to put them all here.

Basically, there are 3 options for Static Charge's change.

Option 1.
quote:


Static Charge:
1. Base Energy Amount Granted
Lvl 1~3: 3 Base Energy
Lvl 4~6: 4 Base Energy
Lvl 7~10: 5 Base Energy

2. Blockability
-Strike Damage: Blockable
-Energy Regen: Unblockable


Option 2.
quote:


quote:

Field Medic----------Cheap Shot----------EMP Grenade
Plasma Armor------Static Charge------Defense Matrix
Multi-Shot-----------Malfunction-----------Technician
Plasma Grenade--Massacre-------------Venom Strike


Static Charge:
-Passive Skill
-Gives energy depending on how much damage you did.
-Adds a Support Requirement, 42 at MAX.

Calculation: 3+[(damage)*(lvl corresponding percentage)]
Basically, it means that you have a base energy regen amount of 3.
quote:


Lvl 1: 3%
Lvl 2: 5%
Lvl 3: 7%
Lvl 4: 10%
Lvl 5: 11%
Lvl 6: 12%
Lvl 7: 13%
Lvl 8: 14%
Lvl 9: 15%
Lvl10: 16%


Technician
-In place of Shadow Arts
-Adds synergy


Option 3.


quote:

quote:

Field Medic----------Cheap Shot----------EMP Grenade
Plasma Armor------Static Charge------Defense Matrix
Multi-Shot-----------Malfunction-----------Venom Strike
Plasma Grenade--Massacre-------------Bargain


quote:


Bargain:

Reduces your skill's energy cost by a %. Does not affect Massacre.

Lvl 1: 5%
Lvl 2: 8%
Lvl 3: 11%
Lvl 4: 14%
Lvl 5: 17%
Lvl 6: 20%
Lvl 7: 23%
Lvl 8: 26%
Lvl 9: 29%
Lvl10:32%




Option 5.

quote:

Static Charge

Deals 50% strike damage. Adds an amount to your energy pool.
-Energy Required: 0 (No Cost)
-Cooldown: 3
-Damage: Blockable
-Energy grant: Unblockable
-Progression depends on Character Level:
quote:

Level 1: 5
Level 2: 7
Level 3: 9
Level 4: 11
Level 5: 12
Level 6: 13
Level 7: 14
Level 8: 15
Level 9: 16
Level 10: 17

Improves With: Strength (+1 Energy per 10 Strength)



---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

quote:


Plasma Grenade:
-Base damage increases by 3.
-Energy cost decreases by 3





< Message edited by theholyfighter -- 4/6/2013 4:26:38 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 1
4/6/2013 4:17:54   
axell5
Member

the only thing that should be buffed about static charge is thet it should give static amount of EP per level like level 10-15 energy back, not level 10- you do 5 damage=>2energy back
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 2
4/6/2013 4:30:04   
theholyfighter
Member

^Sorry then you should put it in another suggestion... Besides your idea needs more of a way of calculation and things, not just "Level 10-->15 energy".
AQW Epic  Post #: 3
4/6/2013 9:54:29   
axell5
Member

well static means fixed so i think the energy you gain should be fixed and not by the amouunt of damage you deal
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 4
4/6/2013 9:58:48   
theholyfighter
Member

^You can look up in the dictionary. Static=/= fixed. Besides, so what? The name shouldn't decide the fate of the skill.
AQW Epic  Post #: 5
4/6/2013 10:14:41   
axell5
Member

by fixed i mean it's the same.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 6
4/6/2013 10:29:49   
theholyfighter
Member

......I know fix can mean the same. I was saying that Static DOES NOT mean the same.
AQW Epic  Post #: 7
4/6/2013 10:54:37   
axell5
Member

then what does static mean if your so smart?
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 8
4/6/2013 17:03:46   
Midnightsoul
Member

Option 5 is the most recommended. It fits the purpose the best, but I don't like it improving it with str. How about it scales with nothing except level? That way, it more useable with support builds and str builds equally.

EDIT: Feel free to make CH threads, I don't mind them as long it's not like spam...you know? xD

< Message edited by Midnightsoul -- 4/6/2013 17:04:32 >
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 9
4/6/2013 19:10:07   
Mother1
Member

@ midnightsoul

There is no way you can make something that works with actual damage work like that. Because in the description it says adds an amount of your damage to your energy pool. If it works with actual damage if the attack is blocked then you are doing 0 damage. Any amount of 0 is 0 so it doesn't even make sense to make it work with actual damage yet have the effect unblockable and the damage blockable. No damage = no energy gain.

Only way this would work is if it worked with raw damage, but then again that would be giving the old static charge a buff and would make Cyber hunter OP again.
Epic  Post #: 10
4/6/2013 19:56:07   
Midnightsoul
Member

@mother1

You just attack and the energy just goes in depending how much you've invested. It's a regular amount, not based on the percentage of damage you do. Think of fireball.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 11
4/10/2013 10:19:36   
theholyfighter
Member

@mother

Every when something about CHs having a fixed energy amount you say they'll be Oped.
The ONLY reason that CHs were Oped b4 is because of "Raw strike damage", not because of a "fixed amount". Before, CHs can get about 18 energy at MAX easily, which is Oped. Now, getting 5 energy is common for a MAX SC.

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AQW Epic  Post #: 12
4/10/2013 10:26:18   
Mother1
Member

@ theholyfighter

I wasn't talking about that. I was explaining how your 5th idea didn't make sense to me. You were saying that you were working with actual damage yet the energy effect was unblockable. My question and point I was bring up was if the energy gain is based off of part of that actual damage how can you gain energy back if it is blocked? 0 percent of anything is 0 so even if the energy gain part is unblockable how could you gain energy if it works with actual damage?
Epic  Post #: 13
4/10/2013 10:27:46   
theholyfighter
Member

quote:


Deals 50% strike damage. Adds an amount to your energy pool.
-Energy Required: 0 (No Cost)
-Cooldown: 3
-Damage: Blockable
-Energy grant: Unblockable
-Progression depends on Character Level:
quote:

quote:

Level 1: 5
Level 2: 7
Level 3: 9
Level 4: 11
Level 5: 12
Level 6: 13
Level 7: 14
Level 8: 15
Level 9: 16
Level 10: 17

Improves With: Strength (+1 Energy per 10 Strength)


You misunderstood this I guess... I see the flaw in this statement that causes misunderstanding.

quote:


Deals 50% strike damage. Adds an amount to your energy pool.
quote:

Level 1: 5
Level 2: 7
Level 3: 9
Level 4: 11
Level 5: 12
Level 6: 13
Level 7: 14
Level 8: 15
Level 9: 16
Level 10: 17

Improves With: Strength (+1 Energy per 10 Strength)


quote:

Adds an amount to your energy pool

This statement refers to strike damage.

< Message edited by theholyfighter -- 4/10/2013 10:33:52 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 14
4/10/2013 14:52:58   
STRUT MY MUTT
Member

Give CH assimilation same as TM.


Post #: 15
4/10/2013 15:00:10   
axell5
Member

but assimilation needs a staff?
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 16
4/10/2013 15:01:12   
ansh0
Member

@MUTT
Then remove malfunction.
Epic  Post #: 17
4/10/2013 15:06:02   
axell5
Member

@ansh0 then how TMs got assim, reroute AND malf?
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 18
4/10/2013 15:12:12   
ansh0
Member

Because TM don't have a passive armor like CH do.
Epic  Post #: 19
4/10/2013 15:14:19   
axell5
Member

well they got 2 skill EP regains+ a core, i think assim should replace static
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 20
4/10/2013 15:14:34   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @ansh0 CHs don't have a passive energy regen like TMs do. And getting 17 energy back to heal over 30 health is more than 10-12 resistance from a passive shield(and one that gets ignored with rage and crits, a luxury that Reroute doesn't have to worry about).
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 21
4/10/2013 15:21:12   
ansh0
Member

Then CH would be unbeatable.

PA+Assim+SA+Malf+EMP.

One of them has to go(in addition to SA).


If CH were to get assim, I demand TM to get a passive armor.
Epic  Post #: 22
4/10/2013 15:25:10   
Ranloth
Banned


 Hence why CHs won't get Assimilation, or get SC anywhere near as powerful as Assimilation. Once can argue Assimilation is better than SC when it comes to EP returned, but EMP is much better EP drain than Assimilation + unblockable at that. Assimilation does both, not just one.
AQ Epic  Post #: 23
4/10/2013 15:58:10   
Master Smasher
Member

^
but you can't ignore that fact that assim. doesn't take the mana, it steals it, making it IMO the best energy draining skill
Epic  Post #: 24
4/10/2013 16:02:28   
Ranloth
Banned


 It's a stronger version of SC that doesn't depend on damage (like old SC) and has EP drain built in although not as good.
AQ Epic  Post #: 25
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