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1/30/2017 21:37:18   
snakehulk21220
Member

holy **** those mana costs, who thought that was smart? jesus its like they legit want to make this class unplayable
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 26
1/30/2017 21:39:59   
Dark Lord Urmi
Member

^ ash did love his nerfs.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 27
1/30/2017 21:50:23   
snakehulk21220
Member

yeah he really did, it sucks how bad the nerfs get, think theyll make a entropy version 1 for people who had the original (doomknight reference ftw?) since its technically a paid for class? gotta buy them dragoncoins after all
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 28
1/30/2017 22:06:32   
Dark Lord Urmi
Member

^ I think fixing it was on box kitties to do list just...the bottom of it.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 29
1/30/2017 22:11:32   
  Verlyrus
DragonFable Boxcat


 Yeah, it's on the list. List got really full pretty quickly after today, and there are some other things that I'm working on before I get back to the list, but it is on the list!
AQ MQ  Post #: 30
1/30/2017 23:24:38   
snakehulk21220
Member

im sure that list is absolutely massive verly, i know you guys have a metric ton of work piled up on you, and you have done WAY more than expected recently
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 31
1/30/2017 23:30:02   
Dark Lord Urmi
Member

you do you box kitty, we know you have a LOT on your plate.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 32
1/31/2017 0:27:23   
Greldracion
Member

Yeah I think this nerf was hidden in some code that came out with a patch, Because I believe I used this class after Ash left and the costs were the same as the previous version.
AQ  Post #: 33
1/31/2017 12:31:14   
ZezinFodinsk
Member

OMG my mana is gone! Just loaded the armor a couple of minutes ago... not loading it again...

edt: It's doing more damage though

< Message edited by ZezinFodinsk -- 1/31/2017 12:35:16 >
DF  Post #: 34
2/19/2017 8:35:40   
Zeldax
Member
 

 Could someone post a screenshot of the current Mana costs of enTropy?

< Message edited by Zeldax -- 2/19/2017 9:19:19 >
Post #: 35
2/19/2017 8:43:12   
Andlu
Member

Here
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 36
2/19/2017 9:19:35   
Zeldax
Member
 

 Thanks! Damn those mana costs are high. Why'd Ash make them that high though? I was planning on buying it too
Post #: 37
2/19/2017 9:47:06   
99th Dracopyre
Member

When I first got this class, I loved the last skill. That was crazy when you turn into that monster. The animations are amazing too.
It was one of my favorite classes, aside from Pyromancer and Paladin.

However, now, the mana costs seem to have been tweaked? I don't really remember it having such huge mana costs.
It kinda defeats the purpose of a class that wants to slowly rot your opponent to death, that it can't keep itself alive at some point.
A mana cost overhaul would be nice, or give it something to restore mana.

That said, it's still one of my favorites, because of that last skill. Terrifying.

~D99
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 38
2/19/2017 9:58:48   
Andlu
Member

quote:

Yeah, it's on the list. List got really full pretty quickly after today, and there are some other things that I'm working on before I get back to the list, but it is on the list!


What is this about? Giving everyone who has the class a v1 and making the 'v1' rare?
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 39
3/16/2017 17:53:07   
Greldracion
Member

So Verly recently posted this which raises a couple of questions

1. why does EnTropy have scaling mana costs, when literally only four special offer classes have it? (DmK, DmK V1, Chronomancer/corruptor)

2. What may have been wrong or imbalanced to cause EnTropy to need scaled MP. (May know the answer to this, but I feel it should be discussed)

3. does EnTropy have scaled damage to go with the MP scale or not?

Anyhoo, what are your guys thoughts on this?
AQ  Post #: 40
4/5/2017 3:05:05   
Pisaster
Member

Testing this right now and the damage is INCREDIBLY high on some skills, it certainly seems like it scales. Would be nice the see its encyclopedia page updated though, right now it doesn't match the current version.
Post #: 41
4/5/2017 17:10:21   
dragon_master
Member

Only Kathool and both DmK have damage scaling.
DF  Post #: 42
4/8/2017 7:56:04   
Christophoses
AQW Tester
&
Lore Adept


 I love the class. The design and animations are epic and unique. However, I usually don't use it because it can't compare with some of the other classes out there, excluding DoomKnight. The Atealan classes, which are free, can pack a much higher punch with lower mana costs.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 43
4/8/2017 14:58:49   
Pisaster
Member

^Have you tried it recently? The skills do more damage than the encyclopedia lists, and I find it to do some of the best burst and sustained damage of any class. Plus your core damage skills actually have pretty low mana costs and lots of hits (so negative mana cost with warlic's staff, very cheap with blade of awe). Try womb->needles->rotting touch
Post #: 44
4/8/2017 16:57:56   
Solanaceae
Legendary Nightshade


 With the revamp (enTropy seems to do 207% damage on the Attack regardless of level, and all other skills seem to do multiples of that), enTropy has become a lot more offensive. Even so, though, it can't match Ascendant's sustained damage even with a Darkness weapon (at least, I don't think so), not to mention that Ascendant actually has a dedicated mana regen skill and way cheaper mana costs.
DF  Post #: 45
4/24/2017 18:46:31   
Thronos
Member

Ok it seems either Verly lied or did something wrong as the mana costs did not change at all from before
Post #: 46
4/24/2017 18:52:19   
Greyor_42
Member

@thronos, it depends, what level are you? because the mana costs were originally locked to what they were supposed to be for level 80.
DF  Post #: 47
4/24/2017 18:58:13   
Thronos
Member

i have two characters with the entropy Armour thethey have the same exact mana cost with a 10 level difference
the levels are 37 and 47 by the way

< Message edited by Thronos -- 4/24/2017 19:01:54 >
Post #: 48
4/24/2017 22:34:57   
  Verlyrus
DragonFable Boxcat


 Oh, weird. Apparently I never updated it after fixing it. Should be fixed now. Sorry about that.
AQ MQ  Post #: 49
4/26/2017 12:16:43   
Thronos
Member

ok here the new numbers so far: the attack does around 216%, the decaying needles do a 37.5% as base for the critcal, rotting touch does 50% per hit, foul slash does 108% per hit, repture does 91.337%, poison rain does 254%, fever spit does 58.3% per hit, the stun skill does 41.6% per hit, infection does 216.7%, decay does 158.3%. this was done with a stable weapon that doesnt have any power boost to it from stats also the dots so far are vines is 125% per turn, infection dot is 42%, decay dot is the same, anyways if the one of the staff can update the wiki, it would be great.
and no it doesnt have damage scaling

< Message edited by Thronos -- 4/26/2017 12:26:24 >
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