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12/18/2019 16:55:04   
LigerBeard
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@RaistlinMajere: I'd say Chaosweaver, but if you don't have that I'd go for any class with a high damage skill or two.

But then, this is the first war I've been more "involved" in, so I might not be the best person to ask.

@The_Insomniac_Of_Lore: Not sure, but this is crossing with the Friday the 13th event so there's that.

Also there was a very happy Frostval event in 2016! If you haven't played through it yet, I'd highly recommend it!

< Message edited by LigerBeard -- 12/18/2019 16:57:31 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 226
12/18/2019 16:59:32   
The_Insomniac_Of_Lore
Member

Best for war is any class with a hard hitting fast attack. Any dc class fits the bill, kathool adept especially. DoomKnight if you got it.

These guys don't seem to have that much health anyway, so just go with what feels good, the ability to keep going is more important than raw speed.


@liger

I've played all the frostval chapters, and I was really looking forward to a new one, all the main story parts have been such downers, our hero just can't seem to make any real progress lately and I was hoping for a nice bit of fluff. But hey. Edgy fish elf works, I guess.
If sally dies I'm quitting tho. I play for a goofy light hearted rpg, and Sally is a fun character, I did NOT sign on for something this grim.

< Message edited by The_Insomniac_Of_Lore -- 12/18/2019 17:06:16 >
DF  Post #: 227
12/18/2019 17:01:53   
  Starflame13
Moderator


 Top of the Hour Wave Count Update
NOTE: Given how the war counter appeared to be 1/3rd complete at 3 million waves, I have assumed the new total to be 9 million (300 percent). All calculations are based off of this number.

We have defeated 3,674,930 waves since the war started, 34,867 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.

Our current speed is 581 wpm , 130 wpm faster than the last update. At this speed it will take us 6 days 8 hours 43 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,325,070 waves.

Next Milestone
We are currently at 122 percent. To reach 200 percent, we need 2,265,070 more waves. At our current speed, this will take us 2 days 16 hours 57 minutes.

@LigerBeard - I believe something similar happened back in the Finale of Book 1, where we defeated the first wave of Sepulchure's forces (5 million)... only for him to bring in 15 million reinforcements. I don't think we're looking at something that dire here, though!

@RaistlinMajere - It depends what you have available! If you have either version of DoomKnight, that works amazing. People have long said Riftwalker (the Warrior Atelan class) is one of the best as well, though some people also use Ascendant (the Mage version, with flashier animatinos). Chaosweaver is a fairly new class people have been using and liking this war. Otherwise, anything with a really solid Final attack with fast animations (Pirate, I think?) is decent!

Top of the Hour Wave Count Update
NOTE: Given how the war counter appeared to be 1/3rd complete at 3 million waves, I have assumed the new total to be 9 million (300 percent). All calculations are based off of this number.

We have defeated 3,726,394 waves since the war started, 51,464 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.

Our current speed is 857 wpm , 276 wpm faster than the last update. At this speed it will take us 4 days 6 hours 28 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,273,606 waves.

Next Milestone
We are currently at 124 percent. To reach 200 percent, we need 2,213,606 more waves. At our current speed, this will take us 1 days 19 hours.

Our fastest speed for this war is 1054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 wpm which was set in the Black Winter War of 2017.

Now that's a good speed! Can we go faster?

< Message edited by Starflame13 -- 12/18/2019 18:01:41 >

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AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 228
12/18/2019 18:19:02   
LigerBeard
Member

@The_Insomniac_Of_Lore: I can't disagree entirely with that sentiment, though once I saw that it was friday the 13th I kinda saw it coming.

Also, I'm almost certain that Sally will survive, especially if we win. And even if we don't she may still survive, because Ramthalas did say it wouldn't matter either way and were technically in a dream right now, so...

However, hopefully we'll win and won't have to rely on whether that prediction is true or not!

< Message edited by LigerBeard -- 12/18/2019 18:20:41 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 229
12/18/2019 19:01:46   
  Starflame13
Moderator


 Top of the Hour Wave Count Update
NOTE: Given how the war counter appeared to be 1/3rd complete at 3 million waves, I have assumed the new total to be 9 million (300 percent). All calculations are based off of this number.

We have defeated 3,760,141 waves since the war started, 33,747 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.

Our current speed is 562 wpm , 294 wpm slower than the last update. At this speed it will take us 6 days 11 hours 16 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,239,859 waves.

Next Milestone
We are currently at 125 percent. To reach 200 percent, we need 2,179,859 more waves. At our current speed, this will take us 2 days 16 hours 35 minutes.

Our fastest speed for this war is 1054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 wpm which was set in the Black Winter War of 2017.

Whoops, wrong direction! Don't let Ramthalas get to your head, now's not the time to take a nap, heroes! Keep up the good work!
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 230
12/18/2019 19:26:39   
LigerBeard
Member

How about some wartime tunes to keep morale boosted?

Hope this helps!
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 231
12/18/2019 20:02:12   
  Starflame13
Moderator


 Top of the Hour Wave Count Update
NOTE: Given how the war counter appeared to be 1/3rd complete at 3 million waves, I have assumed the new total to be 9 million (300 percent). All calculations are based off of this number.

We have defeated 3,790,052 waves since the war started, 29,911 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.

Our current speed is 498 wpm , 63 wpm slower than the last update. At this speed it will take us 7 days 6 hours 10 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,209,948 waves.

Next Milestone
We are currently at 126 percent. To reach 200 percent, we need 2,149,948 more waves. At our current speed, this will take us 2 days 23 hours 52 minutes.

Our fastest speed for this war is 1054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 wpm which was set in the Black Winter War of 2017.

Dinner break for the US folk, I guess! Maybe start a dream food fight so it's easier to spot those pesky Pasikdhars...
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 232
12/18/2019 20:33:02   
brotherinlaw
Member

For the people who were discussing it, I think I know why the Avatars fear the Remthalas.

Various sources have stated that the reason the Avatars can't appear on Lore in the AQW and DF timeline as opposed to the AQ timeline, where they can manifest without damaging the planet, is because of a war between the churches of the elements. This war also took place in the AQ timeline, but the Avatars stayed separate, maintaining the balance. In AQW, a lore snippet even states that the Frozen Claymore and it's mirror were crafted by Fiamme from the essence of Kyros as an apology for the damage she did her brother, and vice versa.

It's possible the Remthalas either triggered the war between the elements or, at the very least, manipulated the avatars into taking part. For beings that are immortal and see themselves as akin to gods, being manipulated and used like that, turned on their own family, might elicit an emotional trauma similar to being (and I hate using this term so casually), raped.

That could explain why they react to their presence with such irrational and destructive fear. It can even be supported by their connection: each of the Maleurous is a misfit, with a reason to elicit chaos. Sinnocence was a being of duality and contradiction, so his very being is of chaos. The Nameless was a toy abandoned, and seemed to only wish to inflict the pain he had been delt. Finally, Ramalthas was a follower of Kathool Atchu, one who has become Nihilistic and perhapse even suicidal.

As to the goal of the Maleurous or, at least of Ramalthas, I think I have an Idea. Being Nihilistic and wishing to sleep, he seems haunted do to the fact that his being a dreamweaver and Acolyte of Kathool renders him just as conscious in dreams as when awake, and that being an elf makes him immortal.

If he or they were behind the Elemental War, and wanted to die, they may have some connection to the Network. Because if you were immortal and wanted to rest, to meet oblivion, what better way than to instigate the return of The'Galin.



Also:
spoiler:

I think the ??? mark on the war meter is for the 200% mark, based on the fact it seems a little less than 4 times the width of the 26% mark we're currently on.



Edit, I also saw people talking about classes. since war waves are short and you get auto-healed, your best bet for speed is something that can kill in as few hits as possible. The best free class is probably Deathknight, and DC is either Entropy or Kathool Adept. Just go crazy, and ignore mana consumption.

< Message edited by brotherinlaw -- 12/18/2019 20:36:12 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 233
12/18/2019 21:01:26   
  Starflame13
Moderator


 Top of the Hour Wave Count Update
NOTE: Given how the war counter appeared to be 1/3rd complete at 3 million waves, I have assumed the new total to be 9 million (300 percent). All calculations are based off of this number.

We have defeated 3,819,970 waves since the war started, 29,918 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.

Our current speed is 498 wpm , 0 wpm faster than the last update. At this speed it will take us 7 days 5 hours 8 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,180,030 waves.

Next Milestone
We are currently at 127 percent. To reach 200 percent, we need 2,120,030 more waves. At our current speed, this will take us 2 days 22 hours 51 minutes.

Our fastest speed for this war is 1054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 wpm which was set in the Black Winter War of 2017.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 234
12/18/2019 21:07:42   
MarchingToApril
Member

Morning.

Hey, 127%! All things considered, we're doing well. Lemme help try and increase that.
--
Hmmm, juuust in case.

Top of the Hour Wave Count Update!

Note: For the time being, due to the war meter looking to be around 1/3 complete at 3 million waves, I'll be assuming we're dealing with a total of 9 million waves (300%) until we get more information

We have defeated 3,851,232 since the war began, 31,262 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.
Our average speed over the last hour is 521 wpm, which is 23 wpm faster than the last update
At this speed, it will take us 6 days, 20 hours, and 42 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,148,768 waves to 300%.

Next Milestone: 200 % . In order to reach this, we need to defeat 2,148,768 more waves. At our current speed, this will take 2 days, 20 hours, and 44 minutes.
Next Percent: 129 %. At our current speed, reaching this percent will take us 36 minutes.

Our fastest speed for this war is 1,054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 WPM, from the 2017 Black Winter War.
---
Numbers were taken at the right time, don't worry

< Message edited by MarchingToApril -- 12/18/2019 22:12:07 >
Post #: 235
12/18/2019 22:28:14   
Flabagast
Member

Good to see that war meter moving!

Concerning potential trickery: the way I see it, the only mind games being at play here may be that there are no mind games, if you understand me. Inaction seems much more of a likely trap.

With that said, it looks like there's still a fair amount of that meter to filled. Let's get to it!
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 236
12/18/2019 22:51:15   
blowthemandown
Member
 

 Jeez, these invisible dudes are murder on my low-level character. I hit them with a three-hit skill and it's miss-miss-miss.
DF  Post #: 237
12/18/2019 22:52:26   
Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


 I'll hop in for a little bit, have not played a war in a little while. Let's see if we can increase that WPM to 1200!
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 238
12/18/2019 23:01:00   
MarchingToApril
Member

Top of the Hour Wave Count Update!

Note: For the time being, due to the war meter looking to be around 1/3 complete at 3 million waves, I'll be assuming we're dealing with a total of 9 million waves (300%) until we get more information

We have defeated 3,877,622 since the war began, 26,390 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.
Our average speed over the last hour is 440 wpm, which is 81 wpm slower than the last update
At this speed, it will take us 8 days, 2 hours, and 2 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,122,378 waves to 300%.

Next Milestone: 200 % . In order to reach this, we need to defeat 2,122,378 more waves. At our current speed, this will take 3 days, 8 hours, and 24 minutes.
Next Percent: 130 %. At our current speed, reaching this percent will take us 50 minutes.


Our fastest speed for this war is 1,054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 WPM, from the 2017 Black Winter War.
Post #: 239
12/18/2019 23:15:22   
  Starflame13
Moderator


 Thanks for grabbing the HWC without warning, April! Remthalas must have hit me with an extra snap - I took a nap! I'll knock out a few more waves proper this evening to make up for it, keep up the fight, everyone!
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 240
12/19/2019 0:00:52   
MarchingToApril
Member

@^: No problem!
Top of the Hour Wave Count Update!

Note: For the time being, due to the war meter looking to be around 1/3 complete at 3 million waves, I'll be assuming we're dealing with a total of 9 million waves (300%) until we get more information

We have defeated 3,896,389 since the war began, 18,767 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.
Our average speed over the last hour is 313 wpm, which is 127 wpm slower than the last update
At this speed, it will take us 11 days, 7 hours, and 45 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,103,611 waves to 300%.

Next Milestone: 200 % . In order to reach this, we need to defeat 2,103,611 more waves. At our current speed, this will take 4 days, 16 hours, and 1 minute.
Next Percent: 130 %. At our current speed, reaching this percent will take us 11 minutes.

Our fastest speed for this war is 1,054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 WPM, from the 2017 Black Winter War.
Post #: 241
12/19/2019 0:53:12   
  Starflame13
Moderator


 Back-to-back rare waves, woot! Anyone here a fan of sushi?
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 242
12/19/2019 1:00:39   
MarchingToApril
Member

Sushi?

Gimme.
Top of the Hour Wave Count Update!

Note: For the time being, due to the war meter looking to be around 1/3 complete at 3 million waves, I'll be assuming we're dealing with a total of 9 million waves (300%) until we get more information

We have defeated 3,923,087 since the war began, 26,698 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.
Our average speed over the last hour is 445 wpm, which is 132 wpm faster than the last update
At this speed, it will take us 7 days, 22 hours, and 9 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,076,913 waves to 300%.

Next Milestone: 200 % . In order to reach this, we need to defeat 2,076,913 more waves. At our current speed, this will take 3 days, 5 hours, and 47 minutes.
Next Percent: 131 %. At our current speed, reaching this percent will take us 15 minutes.


Our fastest speed for this war is 1,054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 WPM, from the 2017 Black Winter War.

Post #: 243
12/19/2019 1:13:19   
Flabagast
Member

Sushi? *Gulp*

That's a good speed! Let's keep it up Skeletons!
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 244
12/19/2019 2:00:49   
MarchingToApril
Member

Top of the Hour Wave Count Update!

Note: For the time being, due to the war meter looking to be around 1/3 complete at 3 million waves, I'll be assuming we're dealing with a total of 9 million waves (300%) until we get more information

We have defeated 3,939,348 since the war began, 16,261 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.
Our average speed over the last hour is 271 wpm, which is 174 wpm slower than the last update
At this speed, it will take us 12 days, 23 hours, and 14 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,060,652 waves to 300%.

Next Milestone: 200 % . In order to reach this, we need to defeat 2,060,652 more waves. At our current speed, this will take 5 days, 6 hours, and 44 minutes.
Next Percent: 132 %. At our current speed, reaching this percent will take us 1 hour and 16 minutes.


Our fastest speed for this war is 1,054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 WPM, from the 2017 Black Winter War.


< Message edited by MarchingToApril -- 12/19/2019 2:01:50 >
Post #: 245
12/19/2019 2:07:11   
Alpha Centipede
Member

Back in dreamland to get more waves! Maybe I should set up a café in the war zone to make everyone not be asleep.
DF  Post #: 246
12/19/2019 2:21:48   
  Starflame13
Moderator


 Going off to real-life dreamland with 1500 waves under my belt! Keep the speed up, heroes!

I'll visit the cafe come morning for breakfast.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 247
12/19/2019 2:42:21   
CelestialBaconWeaver
Member

I saw some people talking about why the Avatars fear the Maleurous, and someone --I think @timsii-- pointed out how Fiamme outbursted they were "bringers of cha-", and they speculated it meant change. Keeping with the whole AE chronology, I think the "cha-" could more so refer to Chaos than change, since it has always had this subtle undertone throughout the story without being brought up directly (there was that whole thing with Drakath, before it got retconned).

spoiler:

If Dove, Verlyrus and the DF staff actually pull another shock like in Black Winter, and Remthalas' version of "freeing" Sally is by offing her, everyone will go absolutely CRAZY. The clues are right there, with Remthalas saying he "freed" Mr. Twinkles when he killed them, and the after wave message of "is this the right thing to do?" Honestly, I can't wait for how this ends. Battle On!



Post edited to remove profanity. Please remember that profanity, even self-censored, is not allowed on these forums. ~Starflame13



< Message edited by Starflame13 -- 12/19/2019 2:53:42 >
Post #: 248
12/19/2019 3:00:16   
MarchingToApril
Member

Top of the Hour Wave Count Update!

Note: For the time being, due to the war meter looking to be around 1/3 complete at 3 million waves, I'll be assuming we're dealing with a total of 9 million waves (300%) until we get more information

We have defeated 3,960,425 since the war began, 21,077 waves since the last update 60 minutes ago.
Our average speed over the last hour is 351 wpm, which is 80 wpm faster than the last update
At this speed, it will take us 9 days, 23 hours, and 18 minutes to defeat the remaining 5,039,575 waves to 300%.

Next Milestone: 200 % . In order to reach this, we need to defeat 2,039,575 more waves. At our current speed, this will take 4 days, 0 hour, and 51 minutes.
Next Percent: 133 %. At our current speed, reaching this percent will take us 1 hour and 24 minutes.


Our fastest speed for this war is 1,054 wpm and our fastest speed for all recorded wars is 6,786 WPM, from the 2017 Black Winter War.
Post #: 249
12/19/2019 3:54:33   
Lord Alsvinich
Member

hmmmmmmmm...
Just saying starflame said they were going to bed at 2:21 but then half an hour later edited CelestialBaconWeaver's post. Starflame we appreciate your efforts as a warmonger and a mod, but please do get some sleep.
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