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6/6/2014 18:22:00   
Onlythestrong
Member

this bot is over power People raging in less then 3 turn then and surgical strike is not enough and the bot do alot of deal of damage itself so i suggest this. this build is seoiry over power in 2vs2 2 people raging at the same time is insane plz neft this bot
old version
190bot damage
50%rage to ally and yourself

New version
170bot damage
Grant 40% rage in 1vs1 or if ur the jugernaut
Grant30%rage2vs2 and jug



< Message edited by Onlythestrong -- 6/6/2014 18:33:17 >
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6/6/2014 18:28:33   
lionblades
Member

lol already? It hasn't even been 5 min since the release...
AQW  Post #: 2
6/6/2014 18:32:07   
Onlythestrong
Member

This bot is super OP in 2vs2 something have to be done 2 people raging in 2v2 at once is insane and the damage the bot has himself is so much more stronger then any other bot
Post #: 3
6/6/2014 18:40:11   
The berserker killer
Member

 

 omg im sorry but im laughing out loud right now. come on, give it a chance
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 4
6/6/2014 18:43:46   
Cyber Dream
Member

So basically, they just took the Merc skill, Adrenaline, and put it into a bot...thus making it available to every class. Yea im not so happy about that. Is ED really trying to make every class the same? Trust me....this is a pvp game. That won't go so well.....people will stop buying things and the game will get even more boring that it is already becoming. Sorry for the harsh words but if this is what it takes for you to realize what you're doing then.....
AQW Epic  Post #: 5
6/6/2014 18:55:44   
Onlythestrong
Member

cyber dream i can agree with you they took the mer skill and turn it into a robot specail seroiuy and now its overpowered
Post #: 6
6/6/2014 19:00:32   
lionblades
Member

Is the core reusable?

EDIT: Yep, the bot core is reusable. I just tested with a friend. Personally I don't think its that powerful (in 1vs1 anyways) since you need to miss a turn for it to work. Its like a mid level merc adrenaline skill that can be reused over and over again.
In 2vs2 I've seen 2 people use it. It's useful but I wouldn't say its OP.

< Message edited by lionblades -- 6/6/2014 19:29:11 >
AQW  Post #: 7
6/6/2014 19:31:59   
Cyber Dream
Member

I wouldn't say that it is OP now that we can see the rage bar. In a way...this bot and this update brought a little strategy into ed. I like it
AQW Epic  Post #: 8
6/6/2014 20:21:09   
Onlythestrong
Member

But the damage of the bot is too strong and the rage given amount is alot
Post #: 9
6/6/2014 22:02:03   
Goony
Constructive!


 I'd hardly call the bot over powered, basically the team has sacrificed 2 turns of damage to both get rage (if they both have new bot)

The thing is a rage attack doesn't give more damage than 2 turns of normal strikes, so how can you possibly say it's OP... There are way too many counters and the turn they use to activate it costs them damage and normal rage gain. That's why adrenaline is a failed skill and no one uses it :/ If adrenaline wasn't a redundant skill before, then it is now since the bot is equivalent to a level 4 adrenaline for no energy cost ;)
Epic  Post #: 10
6/6/2014 22:28:54   
Rui.
Banned

 

 This bot looks so Awesome .. it scares the hell out of the opponent..

It is soo OP that you can win by scaring the opponent... the art factor on this needs to be reduced.. seriously..

Its just too AWESOME !
Post #: 11
6/6/2014 23:00:18   
santonik
Member

GOONY@
I agree you.



Others

I buying this bot. And i have few test battles and i have to saying this. Bot isnt OP. I have more loses than victorys in this new bot.
If you want rage (50%), you MUST SACRIFICE ATTACK TURN (bot attack) (i play mercenary, here 2vs2 battles)

190 attack power feeling very powerful fisrt. but if you want use special it cost attack turn/s. That is both sides good and bad. Good is rage gaining 50% user and hes/her partner. Bad side is no attack at all.

190 damage bot in this game is yetis bot whit primary. Primary give +10 damage bot damage is 180. Total damage is 190. Same what is this LION BOT (190).
Why peoples dont say it is OP powerfull??? THis yeti bots.

I have play 5 focus build. (only now)

Perhaps time show more this LION bot. Good and bad sides. (How it is effective to differents builds.)



Epic  Post #: 12
6/7/2014 9:12:15   
ScarletReaper
Member

I don't think it is op, however it is kinda annoying that it does more damage than my bloodhawk. All weapons and armor are equal in damage, so why aren't bots?
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 13
6/7/2014 11:37:25   
Cyber Dream
Member

Alot of bot does more damage than your bloodhawk. We should still be complaining about the IA!
AQW Epic  Post #: 14
6/7/2014 13:09:15   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 Haven't seen it in 2v2, but here's what I think:

On focus builds definitely not worth it because 190 base damage is just massive (the new highest) and sacrificing that really hurts your damage output. In 1v1 it's extremely inefficient. In 2v2 it might be useful but only in particular situations
Epic  Post #: 15
6/8/2014 9:56:38   
King Bling
Member

OMG thts wht i wud say.....why?....cuz if someone goes a 5 focus tank build with all armo points in physical and all stats in resistance then the lion bot's dmg will be 660.... yes just imagine a bot dmg 660!!! nothing else to say.....





By the wat onlythestrong why do you even bother, dont let it get nerfed........its gona come in-game some day then we will too be OPs....
;)))

< Message edited by King Bling -- 6/8/2014 10:12:02 >
Post #: 16
6/8/2014 15:44:21   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 In 1v1 if you just want solid damage then a fully upgraded yeti is still better IMO. It's special has more application and it only has 10 less base damage, which can be boosted to lionhart's equivalent if you have the omega promos too.
Epic  Post #: 17
6/22/2014 16:10:09   
Armored986
Member
 

 It's not OP, but should be, because people will not to spend money for useless stuff.
(I haven't that bot).
Post #: 18
6/22/2014 16:59:42   
GearzHeadz
Member

Nothing should be OP. And even if they don't want the bot, they get it for free when they buy varium.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 19
6/22/2014 17:36:14   
Mother1
Member

@ srmored986

Yeah and that is the main reason why just about every bot in the game got a nerf since they were overpowered.

Assault bot P and E
Gamma Bot
Azreal borg
Infernal android (Numerous nerfs on this one)
Black abyss bot P and E

All of these bots got nerfs and aside from the Assault bot and infernal android the others were varium bots.
Epic  Post #: 20
6/22/2014 19:44:44   
ScarletReaper
Member

The bot's special ability is honestly not that worth it to sacrifice a turn. particularly in 1v1. As for the damage, it is barely more than the omega yeti, and the same with omega promo weapons, so not that op in that area either.
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 21
6/23/2014 4:23:43   
comicalbike
Member

well the problem is everyone shouts op and they nerf then in the old days when titan ran it we never had that problem, thats another reason to leave the game , as you pay good money or credits to but thing and straightaway they get nerfed,so the players are hissed of and leave .
Epic  Post #: 22
6/23/2014 18:06:29   
Noobatron x3000
Member

The rage ability on the lion heart is pretty bad now that you can see rage its pretty easy to counter, Surgical strike / chairmans fury / if your in 2v2 use azrael to force them to attack the person they don't want to or stop them raging decen damage, I thank the guys using lion giving me a advantage since I'm using a bot that doesn't suck.
Post #: 23
6/23/2014 23:10:35   
Combatoid
Member

I haven't even seen or fought this bot, but it sounds stupidly overpowered.. I support the idea of nerfing it down to 40% in 1v1's/Juggs and like 30-35% in 2v2's.
AQW Epic  Post #: 24
6/29/2014 18:10:03   
xzkamityx
Member

quote:

I haven't even seen or fought this bot, but it sounds stupidly overpowered.. I support the idea of nerfing it down to 40% in 1v1's/Juggs and like 30-35% in 2v2's.


I think I figured out why there are so many unbalanced issues in the game, people are supporting nerfs/buffs on things such as the lionhart bot which isn't even op at all when they have never even seen it used. the lionhart bot is not op at all, yes it lets all classes use adrenaline rush(for the "small" price of 2900 varium) but who even uses adrenaline? The bots rage gain in a 1vs1 is terrible as it deals no damage while that turn could be used by a strength build using strike to get 30% of their rage and do damage. in a 2vs2 the only way I could see it being op is if two dex mages have it on their team, they both get rage, they both use stun, and the opponents can't use anything to take their rage gain(such as platinum's pride).Lets face it, your not going to see that at the lower levels of about 2-25 if you do your just that unlucky.
AQW Epic  Post #: 25
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