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5/8/2020 5:22:37   
Primate Murder
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The 75% war cutscene makes mention of the Astral and the Ethereal planes, and I realized that I don't actually know all that much about Lore's constituents. Hence the following questions:

- Not sure how to phrase this, but what are the planes? Other dimensions of the existing world? Pieces of other worlds, floating somewhere in space? Imaginary constructs?

- Where do the planes come from? How do they fit into the whole Avatars crafting Lore thing? How many known planes are there? Can you create new planes?

- Ethereal plane is described (if rather vaguely) by Jackel Sano in the wizard class intro, but have we heard of the Astral Plane before? What's the difference between the two? And, for that matter, how are they related to the Elemental Planes?

Thanks!
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5/8/2020 13:08:58   
Demistic
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I don't know this for sure. However...

If planes work like they did in D&D [3rd/ 3.5 Ed.] then there are 3 types of planes. Let me explain what planes are first. Planes are slices of reality, subsection of a overall construct that we would call a universe.

The first type would be the Elemental planes, where the Elemental Lords would reside.

The second type is/ are the Material plane(s). This is Lore, and all the other worlds available in WF.

Lastly are the "Transiative" planes, in this case Ethereal and Astral. These would be the connective tissue between not only the Elemental planes, but also to other, independent Material planes. The Astral plane is often thought of ad the pathways of the mind, while the Ethereal is of the soul.

Now, where planes come from is tricky. For the Elemental and Material planes it's easy, each time a new "universe" is created a new batch of Elemental planes are created along with the new Material plane. As for the Astral and Ethereal, are new ones of those created and attached to an existing web, or do the existing Astral and Ethereal simply expand...

The Void on the other hand would be the chaos charged space between all the planes.


Admitedly that is all based on the assumption that D&D [3rd/ 3.5 Ed.] was used as a basis for AE mythos. However, I'm confident that the answers above are at least in the ballpark.

PS. Devs, if there was no set idea for the AE multiverseand the interplay of planar realities , feel free to use this.

< Message edited by Demistic -- 5/8/2020 13:16:33 >
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5/8/2020 13:23:25   
red vector
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If I had to guess, the planes are other dimensions of the existing world. Kind of like the Nevernever in Dresden Files or Soul Society in Bleach. Kind of. Maybe more like that Layers of the World thing in Nasuverse?
The Astral Plane is mentioned in Absol-ution II, and you go into it in the next two parts. Well technically, you go into Etherspace, which is described as a fictional construct, and a mental projection in the Astral Plane.
quote:

Hollow: Not Deny, not Deni, but D.E.N.N.I.E. Phantom. It has to do with the engine. Digital Elliptical Narrow Navigation in Etherspace.
Galrick: Rather than travelling through space like the Alteon, or the Void like the Network Void ships, among other things, the Phantom travels through a fictional construct called Etherspace.
«You»: Wait, it travels through a fictional construct? How's that work?
Galrick: Very improbably...
«You»: Right.
Hollow: It is not quite fictional. Etherspace is a mental projection created in the Astral Plane and maintained by the collective minds of all that travel that plane.
Hollow: You can get between any two points in the physical realm through etherspace.

And a bit of flavor text:
quote:

Ascended Nightmare Rook: Lord, we have an incursion...
???: Your queen is getting more daring? How droll.
Ascended Nightmare Rook: No, my lord. This incursion comes from beyond the Nightmare Realm. The technology is unlike any I have ever seen.
???: I have tracked it.
???: Primitive... but potent. Magic and Technology combined. What is the origin of this vessel?
Ascended Nightmare Rook: If I were to venture a guess, I would say Lore is the most likely origin multiverse.
???: Aye. That seems likely. The ship's trajectory suggests a return to that multiverse, though outside the Lorian sector.
???: Well, Lorian interlopers... you and your world are about to learn who rules the Etherspace. Prepare to take Lore out of spacetime...

The monsters inside are described as "Ethereal," and the can partially phase out of our reality to reduce the damage we do.
Absolution can be found in General Herous's tower in Granemor.
Then there's the Nightmare Realm, which can normally only be reached by lucid dreaming, but the Aracknight can just open a portal to get there. Not sure how that works.
Anyways, hoped that helped a little.
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