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wario the great -> Mages are back! (4/10/2011 19:32:43)

I have just noticed tht quite a few of the the ed population have changed to mage.
+the new aux rocks with loop builds

so what does anyone think are mages back in action?

imo they are becuz i somehow got 95% ?!?!?!? crazy xD



xxmirxx -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 19:41:09)

its not true healing loop is not back. if that was case it would mean change healing cool down to 3 not 4. just cause you see more as mages does mean its back.



xXx83xXx -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 19:42:45)

I'm rather happy to be back in my battery suit (for those who don't know, "Tech Mages are essentially living batteries") after I've been all classes.
Tech Mage is the only class I feel welcomed in and I love that they're making a comeback :)



Deimos... -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 20:06:43)

Oh my... I was just about to make this post. Listen, wow I just retrained and wow. I can heal 3 times if I use booster too. o_o Thats 140+63+63+63+50 hp I havn't lost once for 4 hours doing pure pvp lol
wow



wario the great -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 20:07:28)

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its not true healing loop is not back. if that was case it would mean change healing cool down to 3 not 4. just cause you see more as mages does mean its back.


heal looping works u can get a max of 3 heals but im not just talkin about heal looping just mages who can win battles

edit: deimos u see how i got my 360 wins at 95% mages pwn



goldslayer1 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 20:11:55)

ill be trying mage at lvl 33, and BH aswell
hopefully mage will show some more promises than BH.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 20:20:26)

A poster on the fan forums i use showed is HL build but the link was broken but im taking your word we can HL again and i might use it this time but my Build works well for HL already i just need boosters



eragonshadeslayer67 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 20:43:13)

Mages have been back! but they still do not have as much power as the days before agility, but when a high level phys. staff is released.......... then things are quite uncertain :)



Wiseman -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 21:18:02)

Hate to burst your bubbles, but heal loop is probably the last build the developers want to see make a return. If it really is back (and getting high percent without much effort) expect it to be nerfed again, maybe this time they will give heal a set number per level (instead of have it improve by support).

In short: No build that gets 95% or higher without any effort (or NPC battles) will ever be back long, those types of builds are the true definition of overpowered.




veneeria -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 21:21:03)

cool.. i like challenges.. can't wait to find one in 1v1.

@wiseman - funny thing.. i remember of saying the exact same thing before they were nerfed for the first time. lol



xxmirxx -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 21:48:55)

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Hate to burst your bubbles, but heal loop is probably the last build the developers want to see make a return. If it really is back (and getting high percent without much effort) expect it to be nerfed again, maybe this time they will give heal a set number per level (instead of have it improve by support). In short: No build that gets 95% or higher without any effort (or NPC battles) will ever be back long, those types of builds are the true definition of overpowered.



I agree with you.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 21:49:51)

in an even simpliar version of what WM said

Enjoy the build while you can



Larcell -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:30:22)

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Hate to burst your bubbles, but heal loop is probably the last build the developers want to see make a return. If it really is back (and getting high percent without much effort) expect it to be nerfed again, maybe this time they will give heal a set number per level (instead of have it improve by support).

In short: No build that gets 95% or higher without any effort (or NPC battles) will ever be back long, those types of builds are the true definition of overpowered.



I wouldn't be surprised lol.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:36:43)

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In short: No build that gets 95% or higher without any effort (or NPC battles) will ever be back long, those types of builds are the true definition of overpowered.

i dont think strategy came without effort
altho there are alot of "skilled" players out there who could do 95% builds.
seeing how today i got 165 wins and 5 losses
if u do the math for that, thats 97%
and i only did 5 rounds of NPC
and when i loose it was mostly to BH who blocked 3+ times. (pesky SA -.-)
and managed to regain their hp long enough to last my heal looping.
(heal looping with a merc btw, thats 95+63+63+25 in total its 246 hp, and im half tank a stun zerk combo hardly does 90 damage)

however this build does require alot of strategy and fast calculating. (like how much damage ur enemy will do with certain weps)



Nexus... -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:40:17)

IF anything needs another nerf right now, it is mercs again. Going first and stunning with 8-10 support while hitting 50+ damage without a skill is absurd and requires little to no skill to win. Seeing how this game revolves around strategy, it is the STR merc builds that must be nerfed in order for "strategy" to be a prominent force in winning again.

No offense :P Say what you will but its true.

On topic: Mage don't have full heal looping capability back yet, and therefore its all good the way it is. However I was never aware mages were "gone", just most the ED population decided to go the "change class" to win route, instead of working with what they had.

EpicE4



goldslayer1 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:44:37)

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^
Thats because your build is cheap and overpowered just like so many other STR merc builds atm. You can deny that statement, but its true. IF anything needs another nerf right now, its mercs again. Going first and stunning with 8-10 support while hitting 50+ damage without a skill is absurd and required little to know skill to win. Seeing how this game revolves around strategy, it is builds like yours and many other STR BH builds that must be nerfed in order for "strategy" to be a prominent force in winning again.

No offense :P Say what you will but its true.


im not a strength merc, i hate to burst ur bubble but u can only be a successful (at the most)strength merc if ur founder with bunnyzooka
i see a strength merc without space warrior and he's doing 66% with npcs,

when a techmage gets 95%+ its skill
but when a merc does it, its Op right?
how about when a BH does it?
now why do u think im a strength merc? is it because im a merc?
back before this release i only used str merc because they were fast. now that they are slow, i changed by build to be almost at same speed but with higher winrate.
and its strength is 48 so next time u wanna see im a strength merc only because i got 97% please keep ur mouth shut.

if anything is cheap and overpowered is BH with 88 str and 84 dex and 125 hp still being 90%+
while strength merc were knocked down to 70%



xxmirxx -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:49:48)

165 wins don't count as good built



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:52:27)

That was really nice of you to make this thread to make me feel better. Unfortunately The Devs hate mages, theres no way in heck that they would allow mages to make a comeback.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:53:31)

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165 wins don't count as good built

how so?



Lectrix -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 22:58:00)

quote:

Hate to burst your bubbles, but heal loop is probably the last build the developers want to see make a return. If it really is back (and getting high percent without much effort) expect it to be nerfed again, maybe this time they will give heal a set number per level (instead of have it improve by support).

In short: No build that gets 95% or higher without any effort (or NPC battles) will ever be back long, those types of builds are the true definition of overpowered.


While some Tech Mages have found a good Build, many Tech Mages are still underpowered (especially the non-Varium ones). If Tech Mages are going to be nerfed (again), I hope they're buffed up a bit first. After all, the Devs aren't trying to eliminate Classes (hopefully); they're trying to Balance them.



xxmirxx -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 23:01:37)

well if you start journey after noon or your at exile or legion. wins are easyer to get at 95 percent most of them are online are noobs around that time. not your noob or can't be done if you are varium player.




quote:

That was really nice of you to make this thread to make me feel better. Unfortunately The Devs hate mages, theres no way in heck that they would allow mages to make a comeback.



if you hadn't notice titan a mage. stop act like your true mage you gave up on them along time ago and game.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 23:02:47)

@mir
most of my fights (i did like 6 hours after the reset today) were right after reset.
u can ask anyone who was here at reset went 100% until 35 wins and then thats when i lost the first one.



xxmirxx -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 23:08:49)

I didn't say I did not believe you,



goldslayer1 -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 23:09:53)

@mir
didn't say u didn't >.>



xxmirxx -> RE: Mages are back! (4/10/2011 23:14:21)

I believe you.



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