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Vector -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:08:49)

except that my self-insert would have... oh, absolutely no powers, just the will to do something[&:]




Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:09:33)

Exactly. I mean once you've reached infinity, there's no way to counter that. Save for JJBA's Giorno hax (I multiply everything by 0! TOTALLY NOT BROKEN AT ALL).

Course, an omnipotent could just undo that since they can do anything...

Yeah, super broken #_#




Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:11:17)

INTRODUCING MY NEW CHARACTER.


HIS NAME?


GOD.




Vector -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:12:19)

remember that phrase "great power comes with great responsibility?" the latter is severely lacking...




Shadowlord9k -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:13:54)

Anti: What if someone is an atheist? WHAT THEN?




Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:14:12)

quote:

INTRODUCING MY NEW CHARACTER.


HIS NAME?


GOD.

xD

Though, it could come to that, depending on the writer and their desires for their character.




Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:17:18)

quote:

remember that phrase "great power comes with great responsibility?" the latter is severely lacking...

This.


@Shadow:
I'm an Atheist.

Your argument is invalid.



Otherwise though NOOOOOOOOOOO.


quote:

Though, it could come to that, depending on the writer and their desires for their character.

Sadly...




Question Mark? -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:44:26)

Glaisaurus_x:

I just realized that I had Thursday sheathe his blade through his own chest and then going on a killing spree.
I NEED YOU.
You will be GodTier Aradia.
It will be PERFECT.
SO PERFECT.

Antithesis:
I'm an atheist too.
We should start a club.
It would have to be a non-prohpet organization though.
...
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Ba-Dum-Tiss.




Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:48:38)

^^ AAHA, MY MAN.

Yes, a clan of dedicated heathens...




Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 0:59:52)

quote:

I NEED YOU.
You will be GodTier Aradia.
It will be PERFECT.
SO PERFECT.

o_O Waitwhat? Ah right, Aradia, HomeStuck, ha.

Though...I have no idea what strange plans the servant of Nyarlathotep would want with a Time Traveller...

Or, that is if you still are. Your story could've changed considerably from whence I read the L&L




Zeuzt -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 5:10:21)

Wow pages lots of pages
here's my character

Pros
Exist around the world in different forms
Controls thunder,air lightning
can't age
Light Speed
High strength
can warp to places
voltage and sound proof
does not need air space stuff

(now that I wrote this it's kinda hitting me that i AM godmodding times 3 not just godmodding.) [:o]

Cons
When forms beings gather close I end
Only one being can be controlled at a time two would be bad
generally 70% weaker on ground
Limit to his' lightning bolts
can be affected by any other means other than ^
does not have high air control on ground
and ther's this shr.... not that
is not a god seriously [>:]
sore loser [:'(]
Can only use power in one place at a time


Yes that's basically it other than actual weaknesses of my elements (not talking about hydrogen and stuff.).




megakyle777 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 6:09:14)

I have exactly one power, and I hardly ever use it unless i really need to.[:D]

Pros of The Dealer:

Has one power, the ability to convince almost anyone of almost anything. However, he only uses this rarely, like when an entire plan revolves around it.
Really smart, some would say genius level intelect.
Plenty of gadgets on hand
Built his own form of Hand to Hand Martial Arts, which is bolstered by gadgets.

Cons;
Entirely human. If you can get past all his gadgets, plots and fighting prowess, he would be really easy to kill.
Extremly polite, but has a temper.
Tends to give advice to his combatents whenever he fights to point out where they go wrong.




Clown the Jester -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 7:11:06)

SO how is the OP Police doing? Heh heh...never understood why people moan and whine all the time about people being op...never understood.


If someone is too powerful...then...well...either create a character to balance them out...or just ignore them.

WHO ARE WE TO DECIDE THE POWER LIMITS OF OTHERS?


Man...just man. Heh...I mean...I'm a Clown that can alter reality and thanks to a deal with Death...I can keep coming back from beyond the grave rendering death meaningless to me.


If someone was to say thats OP I'd laugh in their faces and tell em tough cheese.


My character is far to perfect to let other people influence him.


I just wish we could stop whinning about people being OP.


Heh...makes me a sad Clown.




megakyle777 -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 7:20:17)

I don't care about OP either, but it's getting FAR too hectic here. It's all well and good unleashing a zonmbie plague or something, but when there are no heroes to stop it it kinda defests the point a little.




Immortales -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 7:49:19)

well
people aren't gonna solve this completely
but if we ignore people who are op
i'm kinda doubting this'll be able to go on
most of the main characters in this or famous characters are op
like take Saturn he's claiming he can blink us of existence
that's even more op than Zeuzt paralyzed for a hundred years
also yeah we just need to continue but please
it's not like they rp to the death and noone wins
I like the idea
but keep in mind the other stuff
yes i'm not against it since i'm not that strong
pretty balanced for me
the pros cons move was a good one I admit[;)]

Here's mine-
Pros
Immortal (nuff said)
Extremely agile and quick
pretty strong about the strength of 5 buff guys
ground power circles that cast many power effects (not telling all it can do)
lots of experience
amazing stamina
scythe that can absorb or release energy

Cons
Black's out sometimes due to loaded memories
can't really cause to much destruction
relies on other energy sources for blast attacks
can't release power strikes without being hurt first
Vulnerable to anything you can throw
can't fly
won't attack that fiercely unless you hurt other people
has a nasty habit of flinging self on an attack to save other people







Sir Night -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 9:20:15)

@Clown
Some characters are bound to be more powerful than other characters, but I think the real problem is when someone gets egotistic and tries to establish themselves as unbeatable, or at least far above everyone else. When someone just picks a theme, doesn't worry about it if someone else is more powerful, and accepts that they do have weaknesses there usually isn't a problem.

I left myself with a way to out godmod my opponent if need be, but it's not so that I wouldn't ever lose. It's just so I could put people in their place if they seem to be getting too cocky.




Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 9:32:34)

To claim Saturn is OP is just... Just no.
His powers are completely ruined when one gets a good amount of rhodium or nucleic energy.
I've gone over this. Anyone else need the explanation? /facepalm
Also be sure you know the difference between him talking trash and when his powers are actually being displayed.
He's a chronic liar.

He has thought ways around this, jussayin. So don't think that's an easy ticket. It's just one of many methods.

As for Clown, while that may be, eventually it gets to a point where everyone has to be god-like to do anything. Human characters with regular abilities are left behind when you have DRAKKONISS THE WORLD-EATER (I only use his name because it fit best with the title, I'm not saying he's a world-eater) ruling the roost. While I won't try to tell other people how to develop their character...

There are just rules that should be met. That's all.




~Side note; Eventide is completely OP and will always be OP. That's just how it is. I don't roleplay as it for that reason.




delta blitz -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 12:32:27)

My character is just like how I want him to be *not too oped but at least strong enough to hold his own around someone like Clown or Drakkoniss* and the randomness factor is a very chaotic touch especially when it comes to his weakness as I have stated. Though this can backfire on my character as he can get a sudden weakness to something he normally wouldnt like say.....other forms of chaos or even his own chaos.
Though I must admit that I have only stated the weaknesses that my character generally has most of the time x/, if you think about it my character unlike clown has a extremely hard time dieing (Clown can bring himself from death, while character has a hard time getting kill in the first place due to constant absorbing of white chaos energy from planets like this one). If you were to look even further into my character's pros and then put them on a spreadsheet that compares his cons some people would say my character is unbeatable, but if you recall Super Clown was able to destroy him on a atomic level and defeat him with barely a scratch (and note he was zero energy at this time which in itself would make him unbeatable if not for his lack of control of its abilities) though he did reassemble himself in space a few hours later he still was beaten within a inch of his life by super Clown.
So seeing that he is weaker than he was before (if he had full control of his power when he was a zero energy being he would have been able to handle 4 super Clowns*no offense* which in itself is 400 ordinary reality benders in comparison to the 10 ordinary reality benders he can handle now that he no longer can tap into zero energy).
I believe that even if your character can become infinitely stronger he or she should at least have a weakness that contradicts that power(to give weaker opponents a fighting chance at least to not get one shotted)
As for what Clown said.....I completely agree to a point as I'm sure we are bias to our characters(though seemingly inside of eachother's story we don't care if our character gets killed off). Anyway....lets stop this OPed talk for now x/ I'm getting bored of explaining myself (and explaining for others as well <.<)




Drakkoniss -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 13:03:02)

I would like to point out, David, that due to your flesh armor, your character would indeed be effected by gravity. Perhaps it would be by negligable ammounts, and is countered, but if it is indeed countered, that would draw enenrgy from you, and with enough power put into gravitonic manipulation, your character would not be able to produce enough energy to counter the ammount put forth to prevent gravity from effecting you, thusly draining him, unless you abandoned your flesh armor directly. Good to know, with regards to mind control, and only being effected negetively by directed energy flow-based assaults. I have a plan that could potentially kill you, now. To be fair, you could survive it, if you were able to rend a hole in reality swifly enough, but after the destruction of the flesh body, and perhaps even before it, depending on what you ment, with regards to atomic decomposition.

I doubt you'd have the concentration required to rend reality, as well.

Also, what do you mean by critically? If your character absorbs chaotic energies, and cannot be injured by anything but directed energy bursts or streams, but cannot be damaged critically, i.e. killed, does that make him immortal?

Oh, and thank you for the information with regards to pocket dimensions. That might help a bit. I'd have already tried to cut you off from your energy supply, but that brings the idea to the forefront of thought, and gives me ideas other than pocket dimensional transition.

Eh, I would've poked you in the third eye for the heck of it anyway, but it's good to have extra informaton about it and its nature. I wonder if I could make you explode from being overloaded with negative emotions, as well... that could be interesting. I wouldn't ever try, but I'd like to know that, for future reference.

Because he can feel pain through his body, it makes me wonder if he could be disabled by having the entirety of his pain receptors fire at once, while having his biochemical defences against pain disabled...

Oh, and you terribly underestimate my character. Perhaps the statement concerning Clown and my combined potential would be correct, fighting you together (mind you Clown would be attacking me at the same time, so it is only theoretical, and my character would be more powerful than that, unless you took that into account), but alone, I would have est. equal power, when compared to you, or at the very least enough to where my defensive capabilities would be augmented enough to face you on about even ground. That being said, because of my character's sight, he'd have a distinct advantage, because he, like The Smasher, can see deeply into things and assess their strengths and weaknesses. The Chaos would help you, but my point would be that it is not the number of reality benders, or the sheer power, but the strategy involved. You of all people should know this. /me reminds himself of Itachi Uchiha sometimes, which gives him mixed feelings; :/ ... The sight would also help me to potentially gain an eventual advantage in melee combat, if the situation required it, though as I said your chaotic nature would make that more difficult, and it would only help with individual attacks.
Overall, we'd be ablout even, but I think I'd be either able to eventually kill you, or cause you to flee, if you could manage it, with the preventative system I'd have set up for that.

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O.o Celestin is wealthy... Oh, and you forgot to put in all the cybernetic advantages, or neglected to, such as your enhanced immune system.

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The ammount of reality benders Drakkoniss equals is 0 + X, btw. "X" being a variable, depening on the situation, and in most situations non-existant, or to a very small extent.


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I don't care where he's from. Blood hates him, regardless, and Drakkoniss would tollerate him but not heed any oppinions from him, most likely, because he understands that his ideology is that of an extreme optomist, and that everyone just giving up and helping each other will not happen untill the end of time.

Personally, I very much dislike the foolishness that his words embody, because I am an intellectual. Considering the fact that he's from the U.N., he either doesn't believe it, and is saying such things for political reasons, or understands that violence has meaning sometimes, but wishes to interject his hopeful preferences into the situation anyway, annoyingly effectively complaining about life, and how people by nature do not tend to get along. This is how people are in large groups. The likelihood of disagreements increases exponentially as the number of participants rises.

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Saturn would make for a very nasty enemy in most situations, btw, for anyone. I just wanted to interject that here...

Omniscient, David. Omniscient. Oh, and it's not that he is, it's that he has a level of understanding bordering it, it would seem.

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quote:

Omnipotent means you are always everywhere, actually.

... Omnipotent means they have the power to control and/or creat/destroy everything. You are thinking Omnipresent, I think, Anti.

quote:

Likewise a true omniscient would exist in everyone's thoughts as well. Not to mention every place and event that could, would, or won't happen. You can't fight an omniscient because they knew what you'd do before you existed.

Again, you are thinking Omnipresent. A truly Omniscient person would know and understand all that, but not exist in all of it. Also, you can fight an Omniscient being, because they have to be able to counter you. If it is technically impossible, or they make a mistake, then they can be beaten. Also, they may choose to allow themselves to be defeated, for the purposes of causing something else to occur.

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O.o Resistance to mental attacks. Interesting. I'd say Jae did that, most likely, but maybe not. Makes you wonder.

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Well, seems Antithesis figured that out on his own, but I won't delete those comments... I am sortof semi-obsessed with allowing record of my thoughts exist.

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@Vector: That's why those powers tend to be reserved for God/ a god figure/ a collective of the minds of certain creatures/ certain insane people, in the case of Omniscient beings.

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@Glaisaurus: Wikipedia's silly, sometimes. Omnipotence literally means control over everything. There cannot by definition be limited omnipotence, unless the limits are psychological/self-imposed/caused by mind control.

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Hehehe.. I am glad you esteem my intellect so much. Limited semi-subconciously controled multipresence, you mean? Wouldn't completely describe it, but so far as I know, there is no single term to describe what the eventide has, with regards to existance and location.

I also know what the Eventide is, if that's what you meant, but meh. I think Celestin might've been there at the time, as well.

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I'd like to see Fairgates come out. Could be interesting, but brings questions about timelines.

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Well, I'm goign to end here. :/

I wish I could comment more, but meh.




Shadowlord9k -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 13:32:25)

I am now going to attempt to tier most of the people here, just so that confusion is elimated.




delta blitz -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 13:36:04)

@Drakkoniss: Actually the flesh armor isnt affect by gravity though you have seen walk on this planet, it is by my choice not by the gravitional pull from the planet. Also I am a energy being(self sustianing energy mass of white chaos) so no I can't overload on white chaos, it will just multiply my strength and abilities based on the amount I absorbed. Critically meaning that lets say You, Clown, Saturn and Raeven fired a combined blast of energy onto me(when I'm at full strength), it won't kill me but it will deal a heck of alot of damage (kinda like how I was *destroyed* by Super Clown before but still am living to tell the tale today) most likely causing me to make a hasily retreat and no my character is not immortal (once he dies he will stay dead) but to make up for that he is really,really,really hard to kill even for someone like you or Clown. If his flesh armor takes too much damage he will discard to save himself from the pain, also if you notice poking him into the 3rd eye will make him explode and then reform inside of a different state of mind (Kinda like you are pressing a dial on a remote to change the channel x3) but not opening damage him or stop his powers (Though his emotional state does affects his powers which is linked to his mind frame). Also I did say I was making an power estimate for yours and Clown's character and that I was most likely wrong x(. As I have stated my character is not above running away from a fight and avoids fighting in order to save his own hide. Meh I would say we are about even too (my character most likey being at disadvantage to someone who can control time and freely shift dimensions).




Drakkoniss -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 13:59:30)

Clown: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/kansas/carry+on+my+wayward+son_20176725.html




delta blitz -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 14:57:11)


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Pros: constant absorbing of white chaos (converts negative emotions around himself into energy) which is the focal point of regeneration factor and powers, Chaotic touch *has the ability to corrupt* (not mind control but something like that *see Aqworlds for info*, also makes the corrupted victim completely under his control, more powerful based on the amount of white chaos energy forced into them(this ability doesn't work on other chaos beings and only depresses stronger willed opponents), body of white chaos energy (you have to tear off his flesh armor before you can deal any major damage to him and physically touching his energy body will induce Chaos touch). Full control of white chaos based abilities*energy blasts, create barrier and such* (can rip a hole between dimensions but is not practical due to the amount of focus needed to do so and even in best situation is not instanteous and fairly obvious to opponent). Chaos touch ability can easily amass a meduim sized army when he discards his flesh armor(depending on the population around him)
Super genius intellect(has a knack for mind screwing friend and foe alike) though still insane, doesn't have to breath, unaffected by gravity (both due to being an pure energy being), energy body only takes damage from any other energy based attacks(but flesh armor is merely a high level smasher body), can survive atomic decompostion. Behavior is unpredictabily random and character is not above backstabbing, character's personal emotions can affect *outside world* such as causing a nation to declare war on another due to sudden white chaos induced hate or fear. Very vicious and sadistic when fighting(prefers killing his opponent as quickly as possible) and not above playing sympathy card. Free flight due to being an energy being, patient and willing to strike at the right time. 3rd eye can weaken constitution of stronger willed opponents or force the infulence of his personal emotions. Immune to mind control, belief in white chaos makes him not very trusting even to other chaos beings, willing to fake his own death or sacrifice his flesh armor to fight another day.

Cons
No longer can control or affect all the elements of reality. The fact that he no longer is an Zero energy being means that every type of energy outside of chaos can damage him, though not critically. Sometimes rambles mid fight due to insanity, multipersonality disorder is random and can make him unhostile mid fight. Has no defense from being frozen in time due to lack of Zero energy, cannot pull himself into reality once erased from it. No longer can shift in and out of reality as a defense, dimension crossing ability limited to AE universes. Feels pain through his flesh armor, known for warning his enemies before making any major moves. White chaos relies on negative emotions and therefore is extremely weak when inside of pocket dimensions where he can't feed. Known for avoiding battle in general despite formitablity. 3rd eye will not open if character is not in a negative emotional state or within a 1000 miles radius of something that currently is feeling negative emotions. Flesh armor is more durable and has higher resistance than the average smasher but after taking heavy damage will begin to break, 3rd eye in itself is a weakness due to the fact that if struck when opened will cause character to explode and then reform into a different state of mind(this can lower or raise his strength due to a change into a darker or lighter mindset). Despite having some control of gravity character can no longer redirect attack back towards his opponent. Can no longer rip things from reality and with the lost of zero energy not longer has any of it's abilities. Due to the fact that he thrives on loneliness, he is terrible in group situations and can only handle 10 *ordinary* reality benders by himself before being overpowered. Despite intellect his tactical skills is fairly basic and he tries not be overly complicated. In most situations the character will do nothing thanks to a certain conversation he had with Clown. (Subject is extremely difficult to kill but not impossible and once dead will NOT be able to rise from the dead)
*character weakness just like his white chaos is random and can change at random though these ones generally stay*

^Just in case someone missed it or doesnt want to back track and I revised it [>:]




Antithesis -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 15:21:02)

Reason why Drakkoniss is one of my favorite forumites; he reads and responds to just about everything he has the chance to.

It's a showing of respect which I find very telling on your character as a person in real life.


Thank you for it.


I'll get back here in a bit, I'm almost done with school and I'm posting in class from my phone... <.<




Glais -> RE: =HS= Character Discussion Thread (3/8/2012 15:21:17)

quote:

SO how is the OP Police doing? Heh heh...never understood why people moan and whine all the time about people being op...never understood.


If someone is too powerful...then...well...either create a character to balance them out...or just ignore them.

WHO ARE WE TO DECIDE THE POWER LIMITS OF OTHERS?

I am not trying to balance other people. I simply see having so many god characters as somewhat of a waste. Considering the aspect I like about your HS stories is the shared universe, I have reason to be concerned since Blitz or Clown could just show up and nuke my fledgeling character at any time.

Attempting to balance them would only cause a power struggle and an endless battle of godmodding and amping up their powers to ridiculous levels, because as you have said, it is NOT our place to balance other people. Why should we have control over someone else's personal character and story?

That aside, I DO like the idea behind Clown, I just don't see the appeal of people making so many godlike characters, I can't change it, but I'd like to at least try to show benefits of not going the God route.

@Drakkoniss:Ah true, what I meant on the omniscient thing, is that to truly be all knowing, you'd have to be everywhere too...so I guess to be truly omniscient you need omnipresence? But yes I do appreciate that you answer everyone, very nice thing to do.

@Kyle:The Dealer just seems awesome. And that's kinda the best power ever xD Nice.




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