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12/28/2014 6:49:54   
King Bling
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This isn't happening, having 45 support, a 20 support starting first for like 3 times in a row, and a 37 support starting constantly like over 50+ battles is totally ridiculous leading to in-numerous amount of loses which I don't want. 2vs2 is broken for high ranks and jugg for all classes except for bm, which is no reason to change to bm.
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12/28/2014 7:00:31   
Light Stridr
Member

I've been consistently going first regardless of level. Had a few times where I questioned the RNG, but it seems find to me.

EDIT - For clarification, my support is typically 15-20 higher than my opponent.

< Message edited by Light Stridr -- 12/28/2014 7:01:02 >
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12/28/2014 8:14:26   
Lord Machaar
Member

@OP:

When your level is higher than the lvl of the opponent, your opponent has more chances to start first.
Level is a factor.
Support is a factor.

Support factor is given better chances. In many times higher levels (3 or 4 or even 5 levels higher) start first.
Level factor should considered because, player with higher level has many more advantages.

I think there should be more factors, based on weapons, skills, hp, energy and etc... because starting first is a great advantage, and might decide who the winner is.
MQ Epic  Post #: 3
12/28/2014 10:41:31   
King Bling
Member

this is no level factor im talkign bout lvl 40 each, i have 45 support then how can a 20 support start first tht too 3 times i fight him in a row, and even 37support starts first.
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12/28/2014 10:58:13   
Lord Machaar
Member

The level factor was meant for the previous post. He mentioned level.

Starting first is a chance like any other "Lucky" thing on ED, having more dexterity doesn't me you will always block, for defelct, crit... etc...

I totally agree with you, Logic in ED omega is not respected. Luck is beyond an important factor in ED Omega it has become more than that.
MQ Epic  Post #: 5
12/28/2014 11:02:22   
The berserker killer
Member

 

 500 matches with <20 support than my opponents. They went first more than half of the time and the one thing they had in common was a lower rank. I understand that more support gives you a chance to go first and that lower lvls/ranks need to go first b/c theyre weaker but theyre going first nearly ALL the time.

I don't mean to whine but in a game where First Turn basically grants someone momentum and could potentially grant that someone the win.... you can't give away first turn so lightly.
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12/28/2014 16:00:05   
  Exploding Penguin
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 I don't remember the exact percentages, but about 1-2 more support than your opponent levels out having about 1 level advantage over them.

Also base crit chance is 4%, and every 7 more support you have than your opponent you get +1% crit chance. So if you have 45 support and they have 17, you have 28 more, which is an 8% crit chance.
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12/28/2014 16:06:47   
The Jop
Member

It just gives you a higher chance to go first. Guaranteeing it would be broken, just like if you blocked/deflected a certain percent of the time. You're not going to always go first with higher support and the same/lower level, especially if you only test it a few times.
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12/28/2014 20:20:47   
Thylek Shran
Member

Support is to weak for other classes than merc that the first turn bonus would be a big bonus.
Lower level characters have a too big chance to go first. Just what is the point of having a level
system where higher characters are more powerfull than lower characters when this does get
softened by the first turn bonus for lower level characters ?
So it would be good if the first turn bonus could increase more than now with support as support
is still the weakest stat right now for non-mercs.

< Message edited by Thylek Shran -- 12/28/2014 20:23:36 >

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