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IsaiahtheMage -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/3/2011 23:28:15)

^ I encourage more F4F players I want many more fame! ^^! [:)]



Shadronica -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 0:58:13)

Actually Buffy and voidance ... thanks for the mirth and merriment you two. ;)

Picture Poifect. hehe



Buffy A. Summers -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 1:12:25)

@ Shad

My Pleasure As Always. ;)

@ astro999

I've Been Asked Before As To Why I Capitalize Every Word I Write And Speak. Many Have Also Complained About It.
The Super Ego Answer Is: I Feel Everything I Say Is Very Important.

So That Is Why. It's My "Thing". Also A Tribute To Lady's Gaga X's Writing Style From The Old Ed Forum.
So There You Have It.

[sm=kiss.gif]

Let's Please Get Back On Topic.

FAME! By Irene Cara

The Song Goes Like This...

"I'm Gonna Make It To Heaven. Light Up the Sky Like A Flame!
I'm Gonna Live Forever. Baby Remember My Name." ~ BUFFY!

That's My Theme Song!

Woot! LOL



voidance -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 1:34:17)

OnTopic:
Most people think if you hate fame you shouldnt even try to get it but we want the achievements just like everyone else so why not try for it?

OffTopic:
@x666satan666x
You might not even want to post back, you got wrecked, wrecked again, and wrecked once more in her reply.



Shadronica -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 1:46:02)

What's that? Did I miss something? Was that mutterings from the peanut gallery?



Shadronica -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 2:34:16)

Satan I really don't agree that Titan and Nightwraith keep Buffy here just for her money.

You see they could replace Buffy rather easily with other paying customers that wouldn't be as controversial as Buffy.

Maybe they keep Buffy here for some warped amusement. :D



Buffy A. Summers -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 2:42:49)

@Shad

We All Have Our Roles To Play In This Game. I Choose Mine Long Ago In The Begining.

I Had A Dream...

TO BE THE VILLAIN OF EPIC DUEL!

Mission Accomplished!

muuhuuhahhahaha! MuuuhhhuuuHAHAHAH! MUUHUHUHHAHHA *COUGH COUGH* <Evil Maniacal Laughing Is Bad For The Throat, But GREAT For The Soul!>

The Cute, Innocent Looking Avatar. The Friendly And Kind Demeanor. Buffy Peels Off The Mask... I AM PURE EVIL!

I'm Just Being...MYSELF.

This Game Needs Me. I Do What I Can To Make It FUN! Isn't That What Games Are About?

It's Not About The Money. It's About The FAME! The GLORY!

Speaking Of Which...

So, What Do You All Think About The New Fame System, Leaderboards And Achievements?

I LOVE THEM!

LOL [;)]




matteo234 -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 3:10:59)

so long as the begging could be restrained, i would accept this feature. I don't find any real interest in it, but others do, and passionately by the sound of some of the posts in here. Its getting close to being out-of-hand. I, myself, am not at all interested, and would only rather see it go because the amount of those that beg. If they didnt beg so much, the feature could be ignored by those wishing to ignore it.

P.S. @either side of this argument - i am not in any faction, so you cannot dismiss my post because of that, it is my true and honest view. If you dont like it, feel free to complain, what do i care. My opinion is what i get to say on these forums, and i will say it, and say it well, if not epicly.



voidance -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 3:22:31)

Like ive said atleast a dozen times, I hate it. But if its gonna serve a greater purpose then begging so be it(just hurry and show us the real purpose, and yes i mean other then achievements), I have somewhat joined the crowd of the so called Fame beggers but i do not ask for it, im the guy that says sure when asked. But once i get to 500, well should i say IF i ever get to 500 ile be happy.



Oh and i gotta throw this in, "Jeez....and they call us the trolls".



Soliqe -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 3:24:57)

@above

I've need been fully against f4fing. I just dislike it when it's spammed by "said zealous users". I will f4f but I rarely initiate the question. If someone asks me, of course I'm going to be polite.



Buffy A. Summers -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 3:38:40)

@Voidance

I Know Right? I Have An Entire Faction (Renegade Masters) That Now Trolls And Flames My Every Post. lol

Removed off topic response to deleted post. ~Ashari



Ashari -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 3:46:14)

Okay, this thread is quickly starting to go off-topic. Please keep the discussion about the fame feature and not about your opinion of other users. If you have something unrelated to discuss with another member, you can do so via PMs.

I've gone ahead and removed the off-topic posts.

Just to bring this back on topic:
quote:

How do you feel about fame?
Do you want fame gone completely?
Do you feel that fame can stay if there are certain limitations imposed?
If so, what are limitations on fame you would place?


This thread should be about the problems you see with the fame feature and how to improve it. If you see a user abusing the fame feature, than that may be a problem with the feature itself -- something that needs to be changed.



goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 3:47:31)

seeing how i also want the achievement and complaining wont do anything because the staff wont listen, i might aswell join the "fame" train and get the achievements.



Soliqe -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 3:55:58)

*sigh*

Anyways, Fame is decent... I'm not a large fan of begging.



Concrete -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 7:58:36)

You could always change it, from Fame to Beggar.
This way the achievements could stay and the beggars get the "fame" they deserve.



Shadronica -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 8:12:17)

I thought this was a discussion on fame and not delusions of grandeur.
My spider senses tell me that fame or "lack of" is going to some players heads.

Also ... Buffy ... the entire faction of RM are hardly interested in your posts and quite a few don't even come to the AE forums. Sorry to tell you that you are not the centrepiece on our table.
Your only cranky because Satan called you out for being the biggest fame spammer that is offering players varium to fame you. If its not you at OZ world 7 then its Heart Zel demanding (not asking but demanding) we fame you.

This fame thing was a huge mistake. It won't be taken away because I know our admin too well and I know they will not modify anything to help the nasty spam situation they are putting us through.

^Nice take on it Concrete. Yeah use it in reverse ... you can go from fame all the way to down and out beggar.



sk1tz -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 8:36:31)

egg?
fame=egg?
yes



Fay Beeee -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 8:54:53)

I like the fame thing now, although I find we have an epidemic of f4f
I have decided I will only Fame them now if I fight them (unless I have stopped for a chat) lol


And Buffy, I agree. :)

quote:

I Had A Dream...

TO BE THE VILLAIN OF EPIC DUEL!

Mission Accomplished!



Shadow Jester -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 12:43:29)

I was fighting a war on my alt about Fame with Lotus,and Zeal Overlord

First of all.... Zeal begs for fame and he never famed a low level... People like him beg for fame and they get on the LB. Its quite funny how players like him don't beg or ask for fame but they arn't on the LB.
Lotus only fames people who ask him.Thats quite nice,but the begging needs to leave ED



voidance -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 12:47:00)

Glad to know you children can read
quote:

Okay, this thread is quickly starting to go off-topic. Please keep the discussion about the fame feature and not about your opinion of other users. If you have something unrelated to discuss with another member, you can do so via PMs.
Buffy has tried to put this back on topic several times and yet you guys seem to keep making her your.
quote:

centrepiece on our table.



Xendran -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 16:42:34)

Almost no famous players are even on the fame leaderboard.
Can you honestly say if this was based on how many people ACTUALLY know about you that people like me, barney, g00ny and arcanis wouldnt be on that list?



x666satan666x -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 16:54:44)

@ voidance, buffy only tried to get back on topic to suck up to the ak like always and

@ xen, EXACTLY. skilled, talented, true "famous" players have abandoned this system because theres no reason for it. people used to gain "fame" though ability(win ratio,amount of wins, helpfulness), and charisma(respect, and moral). now it seems like everyone has became a hobo ( CHANGE!!!, CHANGE!!!!!!,, FAME!!!!!!!!!!!). the only way we can fix this is to change how fame is calculated. maybe add 5 fame per vote, then add in other parameters such as wins, ratio, faction score, achievements, houses owned, missions done, and ratings(forgive me if i missed anything)



voidance -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 17:09:09)

I'm let buffy handle that comment.


Thats a dumb idea, why would fame be effected by things such as houses and missions, not to mention achievements and rating are basicly the same thing so to factor but in would be stupid.



Rabies -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/4/2011 17:31:10)

How do you feel about fame? I don't really care for it, but it's a pretty good aspect of the game, just needs more work arounds.
Do you want fame gone completely? I wouldn't really mind either way.
Do you feel that fame can stay if there are certain limitations imposed? Yes
If so, what are limitations on fame you would place? Be able to fame people from their stat page, and not their character page.
Only being able to fame during battle, and not outside of battle.



Vick Vega -> RE: =ED= The Controversy of Fame (4/5/2011 13:05:01)

I think there is far less mystery to the reason we have had “Fame” crammed down our throat than we are admitting. Ed is not the Ma and Pa operation it once was. It is a part of Artix Entertainment. It is corporate. Now, parts of that suck. It means that player input and players wants become a distant priority. If you look at it from an economic stand point they have 3 main sources of income (Game currency packages, Ads, and merchandise). Game currency packages are what we like to think is the most influential on these forums, and I am talking about myself here. We pound our chests and demand varium buy back and a trade system and a million other things that aren’t in line with the current model of any of the other AE games. Face it, Ed is in the AE family and like it or lump it they will do things the AE way. The reality is that they already have “us” and they have to focus on “them”. They aim their resources and updates on increasing the player base. Which has more to do with Ads (# of people online for longer durations = more ad $). Fame is for “them”, it has nothing to do with “us”. We are the poor unfortunate souls who simply have no choice but to be subjected to it if we want to play ED. On the flip side of this are the parts that no one wants to look at and admit that it is in our best interest. AE has a successful MMORPG business model. If ED were to continuously deviate from that model at the whims of its players and end up collapsing we would be no better off. I think we attack the Ed team with the accusation that they do nothing, when really most are mad that they aren’t doing what “we” want them to do. They are two very different things. Do I hate fame? With all my heart. Do I think its going away? Not a chance. For the same reasons , I highly doubt you will ever see any of the other main requests we constantly see on here ever happen.



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