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xxmirxx -> No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 18:18:40)

I belive nerfs will just end up as gamma did. So buffs are better like change CH skills and BMs give them matrix but no nerfs.



tigura -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 18:23:06)

I agree. Instead of just nerfing the strongest class, buff the others. Maybe change the BM skill bezerker so that it can be used with staffs as well as swords.



The UnleaShedWolfZ -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 18:45:17)

Sounds Gd..



Soda Pop -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 18:54:13)

Mkay

And Tigura, Berzerker doesn't require a sword.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:19:23)

Finally people who agree. The only solution to balance is slight buffs,removing reqs and returning skills to their original state. That is it. Then we can have diversity and balance.



BlueKatz -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:27:21)

aye... and leave TM there...

OP is the new standard :/



Sageofpeace -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:29:13)

while is true instead of nerf class a buff will be better however you can't hope to accomplish if in every single thread the say person complain. for real in every thread is either mirv or issah complaining



StriderAigis -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:30:43)

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I agree. Instead of just nerfing the strongest class, buff the others. Maybe change the BM skill bezerker so that it can be used with staffs as well as swords.


BM zerker can use swords and staff's



goldslayer1 -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:31:22)

@sage
well theres alway an odd bunch that complain and complain even over the slightest thing. i just ignore them.

also who do u mean by mirv?



Wraith -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:35:49)

^xxmirxx

Buff up Cyber Hunter too x.x



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:40:12)

@Sageofpeace How am I complaining? Can you explain that? In every thread I complain? Please tell me how?



Sageofpeace -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:41:13)

is not you thats for sure at least when you post you take your time even if i strongly disagree which you know i do, im talking about certain people who keep making the same thread which nobody care

on topic: i do think blood mage need a skill that buff either defense or tech but not like technician and maybe bounty need 1 skill that also help them but other them that people are just overacting about mercenary been overpower because people are mainly piking them because they would have never though of a mercenary with reroute



xxmirxx -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:54:11)

Sageofpeace I wasn't complaining about nerfs but like or not here going nerf. IsaiahtheMage you were one saying nerf TLM I was not.
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^xxmirxx Buff up Cyber Hunter too x.x

CH stands for Cyber hunter.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 19:56:09)

@xxmirxx No I wasn't. I am againts nerf's. When did I say that? Show me proof.



Wraith -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 20:06:32)

Oopsies I didn't read your post Mir. Lets buff up ch and I might actually switch. But STR Bh first :-).



xxmirxx -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 20:08:04)

I am sorry IsaiahtheMage you weren't asking for nerfs the same with me.



ND Mallet -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 21:29:07)

There's 2 very good reasons the Admins don't buff the other classes when one gets stronger than the others.

1. It will take too much time to balance it since you wanted the classes balanced and buffing them all might make one stronger than the rest.
2. There are players who don't want battles ending in 2-3 rounds for every fight. If we keep buffing, then matches will be over in seconds instead of minutes. Instead of having a good build for Daily 1vs1, you would just need a good connection and persistence.

Faster battles don't sound that bad but with faster battles, then more credits and exp, which means higher exp requirements for leveling and increased credit costs. It also means more copy pasta builds. Huge Str and huge damage skills.



xxmirxx -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 21:37:17)

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Faster battles don't sound that bad but with faster battles, then more credits and exp, which means higher exp requirements for leveling and increased credit costs. It also means more copy pasta builds. Huge Str and huge damage skills.

IDK about that as far I am concern we all did it all skills But nerfs will ruin the game take look at agility that because of people want nerf mages. Even if takes time it is well worth it. We don't want gamma all over again.



sylar67 -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 21:43:15)

buffz = more damage

more damage = damage loses its importance .. just like money :)



goldslayer1 -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 21:46:45)

@sylar
yeah but everyone QQs about skills like plasma bolt and overload and plasma rain having low damage.
and saying that caster kills are weak.

then u got people saying they the defense is weak.
more damage and more defense = damage isn't lost. nor gained. it would still be the same if damage is increase and if defense is increased as much.

also the more damage u do. the less rage u get, and the more rage the enemy gets.



Mr. Black OP -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 23:34:48)

buff ideas:
make SA increase the chance to go 1st +1% every other level, if CH are only going to have 1 passive with insane requirements that relys on luck at least make it good enough to be on its own
tac mers... ya if we buff em anymore might as well be 1v1 against armor hazard
give bm either malf or smoke or defense matrix instead of that worthless skill called intimidate



goldslayer1 -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 23:46:41)

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buff ideas:
make SA increase the chance to go 1st +1% every other level, if CH are only going to have 1 passive with insane requirements that relys on luck at least make it good enough to be on its own
tac mers... ya if we buff em anymore might as well be 1v1 against armor hazard
give bm either malf or smoke or defense matrix instead of that worthless skill called intimidate

first off
+1% chance to go first will be and i will say it again WILL BE OP for 5 focus support builds.
it will also be OP for str bh going first and doing the smoke skill.
if ur second against a str BH ur chance of winning drop to 30% and thats not really fair.
BMs are already good enough
they are supose to be quick kills BM like old str BH and they will lack the % with str build. and str build is supose to be what its based about.



Mr. Black OP -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 23:52:47)

@above
considering some1 could put up a shield and make bm hit 3s and they have no def skills... i say they need 1 and also i havent been 2 turned by any bm, let alone killed by 1 and CH only have 1 passive that requires luck, high support, and occasionally wont even help them in battle at all, when mercs had 1 passive that passive was great it gave awesome defensive capabilities but SA either needs a buff or CH need another passive
also i would like to hear from some1 who isnt a tac merc say they arent OP or have something to say about giving the other class a decent chance vs them



upgradefire -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 23:56:14)

the only smart thing to do is redo the classes with new original skills and not mix and match skills for the classes



goldslayer1 -> RE: No to Nerfs and Yes to Buffs. (7/1/2011 23:59:58)

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considering some1 could put up a shield and make bm hit 3s

a good str BM wont be hitting 3s
use 111-135 str and u wont hit 3s. it will be VERY hard and unusual to hit 3s

EDIT: fix type fail



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