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Baron Dante -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/21/2011 14:52:24)
@Sendai: ...It was meant to be a side-saga, but it accidentally came part of the main. Thus, it is.

Dragonlord John! -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/21/2011 17:02:39)
@Steel Blade - Right near the end. But it doesn't really matter as the final quests in the Darkness Sage require you to have completed RavenLoss.

Dwelling Dragonlord -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/21/2011 17:22:44)
They either need to edit the dialogue for Tomix or actually make it a requirement for the Ravenloss Saga to start. Speaking with Tomix currently tells you how you saved the Cauldron Sisters from Greed's influence, even if you didn't.

Baron Dante -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/21/2011 17:42:48)
@DDL: Yup. Which is why I'm disturbed that the seasonal things have actual story in them. Logically speaking, because Ravenloss is main, the Mogloween one with Greed and Tomix is, as it happened before, and for it to make sense, the earlier Mogloweens were too.

Murtos -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/21/2011 18:42:34)
To get the most accurate order possible you would either need a photographic memory or you have to look into each and every design note to see which quests came before, which quests came afterwards, and when to put a lock on a saga to have the best order (i.e. Darkness Orb, Ravenloss, Darkness Orb part 2). To have the most accurate order this is completely necessary and you can't argue with the results because it was done based on the design notes. Now don't get me wrong, this would be extremely tedious and take forever; but it would be worth it in the long run, we don't want anybody to be as confused as some of us were when we started.

Baron Dante -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/22/2011 4:01:21)
Heh, I've gone through these things so many times that I remember most of it from heart. But yes, whhile it's true, the issue rises from the fact that some chains just plain start while the other one is already going. How are you going to figure which was first? There are some exceptions to the rule where things happen in one go, like the Clashening, which clearly has time between the quests.

Dwelling Dragonlord -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/22/2011 4:33:37)
@Baron Dante: I would say the Clashening requires the Fire, ~~Energy~~ and Bacon Orb Sagas to be completed first. -Lim -Yix (I suppose you only need to meet him.) -Cysero's private garden

Baron Dante -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/22/2011 9:44:37)
DDL: Actually, look at it this way: Fire War to get Lim to FR, allowing start, then whenever Yix appears is required (Though, Energy Orb SHOULD be done by then assuming Fire War takes place after... which I'm not sure it has to) As for Bacon Orb... does the hero imply he has been in the garden before? In that case, it should be as a lock for that quest.

Dwelling Dragonlord -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/22/2011 10:38:48)
@Baron Dante: Inside the Garden, our hero states that he does not know Cysero has a garden. In Gravityvity, our hero asks Lim. <Character Name:> So what ARE you doing in Cysero's garden?

Baron Dante -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/22/2011 12:52:50)
DDL: Yup. That's a clear one then.

Murtos -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/22/2011 16:53:25)
Well whatever way you look at it this will take forever to organize in any appropriate way, so the DF team has their work cut out for them...

sithdragon123 -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/23/2011 0:51:52)
Ihave to dissagree with locking.I remember for me if i couldnt do something in one of the sagas i would skip to another one then comeback with a higher lvl, and better items.if the areas were locked to me, i wouldnt be playing right now.locking would remove freedom from doing what u like in a game.

Fenna -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/24/2011 5:29:52)
It would be great if the DF storyline had a definite order. I just created another character a few days ago and am planning to play all the quests in order, but I don't know where to start!

Murtos -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/24/2011 10:30:09)
IF they decide to put locks it should only be on super important plot points, not side quests. Unless a side quest makes a reference to any certain quest there shouldn't be a lock on it. It would give the game a nice order and you could progress before trying that one quest you just can't beat.

Baron Dante -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/24/2011 14:29:17)
Hah, Murtos, this is exactly what we want. Locks are to be placed only if it refers to anything that happened somewhere else. We should go through all quests to find all the needed locks.

Murtos -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/24/2011 14:49:10)
Ah well then wonderful! I suggest somebody start a thread(or a Google doc) for the quests that need to be locked and what order to do it in so we can help the AE team, if that's indeed what they are doing. OH! I was starting a YouTube walkthrough of DragonFable so I'll continue that and post in said thread(or Google doc) when I find something in need of locking...any objections?

Matri -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/24/2011 17:35:05)
You know, in approximately one month everyone's favorite cuddly necromancer is going to be making his move again. And there's still a giant dragon skeleton in the bay...

Kito Domi -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/24/2011 19:09:19)
Here's a clean-up thing: Now that you can only go to Ravenloss at night, shouldn't the short transition scene where it shows you going underground be et at night? The sun is fully shining in the little scene. Just a small thing that maybe could get changed? It was weird walking around in dark, then going underground in the sun.

Acer DeVille -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/25/2011 8:22:34)
I agree with locks/instructions/guides whatever, as long as the Boss Fight doesn't have to be completed. There are times when my dragon just is not getting the RNC rolls necessary to win. It's almost like it is not leveled up enough. So I will level up a couple more times then go back and win. Other than that I completely agree with the idea of locks, it just makes things progress along the correct timeline, I know I got so confused when I first started playing, because I ran into things I had not been introduced to yet. When walking through FR at night, if you go "Fishing" it is daytime

Dwelling Dragonlord -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/25/2011 8:31:37)
@Acer DeVille: I know the fishing "bug", already mentioned it when nighttime was first introduced. Say, has the gryphon been fixed up to the point where it is night at his screen when it is night? EDIT: Seems like it has.

Baron Dante -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/27/2011 13:13:23)
I noticed that Light Orb was the only Orb we actively searched for. This means that prior to this, we knew of the Orb, thus it should prove some other Orb saga was before. (Doing some background checkings at some point here.)

Dwelling Dragonlord -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/27/2011 13:17:57)
@Baron Dante: Yes, the Wind Saga or some other omen (explanation given to us by the staff) that was foretold has to come along. Thus far we only know of the Orbs and searched for them was because Sepulchure was interested in them.

Dragonlord John! -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/27/2011 13:18:17)
Another thing, in Sandsea, the cutscene shows it being day, then turning to night, then once you are actually there it is day again. This is rather confusing. Wouldn't it be better to play the cutscene in reverse so it goes from night to day?

Dwelling Dragonlord -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/27/2011 13:22:51)
@Dragonlord John!: Ghost might want to include night scenes of the sandsea, if he were it would be nice to see that cutscene whenever we go rest.

Dragonlord John! -> RE: Chapter 1 Clean-Up (9/27/2011 13:24:16)
@DD - I was thinking something similar myself.

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