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gangster a -> class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 8:24:40)

i think 30k should be reasonable enough dont you thin many ppl cant afford 50k would take them months



I am Primal -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 8:33:52)

the reason it is 50k is so more people would spend the 900 varium for class change. in the end of the day it al comes down to profit. i don't mean this in a bad way or anything cuz without profits they can;t make the updates. but for updated i'd rather have balance than new weps constantly forcing me to spend money.

but back on topic i'm sure everyone would like it to go down to 30k i know i would anyways but when we face reality it's not gonna happen :/



gangster a -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 8:41:40)

yeah well at least they should reduce it depnding on what level you are but start at level 25



TurkishIncubus -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 10:34:05)

its fine , i dont see any reason to reduce it.



rej -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 10:49:11)

30k would be great, but there's allready a reasonably high number of non var players using tactical merc. so, not supported.



Shao Kahn -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 10:50:31)

I find it sad non varirums can't use the class they want I think the price should be reduced.



Remorse -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 10:51:07)

I agree with turk for once,

It is fine.

Class change is not ment to be an abused feature were everone jumps to the oped class all the time its ment to be difficult to aviod people doing this.




Basicball -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 11:21:28)

it's fine, there used to be no F2P option at all, so you really should be happy they added one, regardless of the price



Gepard Acht -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 11:32:16)

i'm f2p and i see nothing wrong with it, we should be okay since back then f2ps cant class change and the var price reduced too, cant ask for more imo



Sipping Cider -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 11:43:53)

I think class change should be free, or around the price of a retrain. Of course, the classes would need to be really balanced first, but otherwise this gives more point to having class changing weapons since you would actually change class more than just once. It also would just make the game so much more fun and less work to just change to class if you get a great idea for a build.



Darkwing -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 13:05:22)

so if i want to try all classes i need 50.000x6= 300.000 credits? how much time u need to get that?



Stabilis -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 13:09:11)

I've suggested this before :

If you've paid to change class and then change to another class, why should you pay again for the class you have already purchased before? ?



I am Primal -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 13:23:28)

i've changed class 36 times lol how u think i feel xD



goldslayer1 -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 13:40:06)

quote:

many ppl cant afford 50k would take them months

takes me a week.

just do 200 wins daily and then some more on the weekend.
in the end its only 1563 wins (not counting power hour)

@primal
i too have changed around that many times.
recently in the past 2 weeks i was tlm, changed to bH, then to CH, then to bloodmage, then to BH, and now to tlm.
thats already 5 class changes in 2 weeks :/



AQWPlayer -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:06:28)

@goldslayer1
FAIL! You get that much in a week beacuse you are a fully enhanced full varium level 34 TLM AND ultra hardcore. You should consider the average non varium player; they won't be getting that much in months considering that they have a life and are not as insanely OP as you -.-



I am Primal -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:33:39)

golden i changed class 6 times in 1 week got 1k 2 vs 2 in that week aswell :p



goldslayer1 -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:37:29)

@aqw
im sorry maybe i should remind u of players like jaw hawk and xx mir xx who average 200-300 wins daily AS NON VARIUMS
if a non var cant get 200 wins in a day (even with time) its because he hasn't tried.



PD -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:40:49)

Just an FYI, not everyone has that kind of time goldslayer.

Can you really say someone who can't play 4 hours a day doesn't try? Is it their fault that their life is too busy or important (or both) that they can't focus on Epicduel to the point where they have to win 300-400 fights a day to get by?

That sir, is amorality. And a disgusting shame that you think like that.



AQWPlayer -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:42:38)

@goldslayer
Maybe I should remind you back that they are NOT the average non varium players that just want to have fun. If they even try, then there's a high possibility that the person will ragequit this game seeing all the full variums flooding all battle modes before they can get even 10k credits.



johnny be good -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:43:38)

Titan and Nightwraith only think on money, they don't care about balance and all those stuff :(



AQWPlayer -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:44:46)

^
Not exactly. You could say their minds are made up of:
90% money
10% game quality (includes balance and content updates)



DeathGuard -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:48:33)

@Goldslayer1: Dude, I do 100 wins in 2 hours but that;s my limit in being on the computer except if it is not for Hws. Im a full varium TM, imagine some nonvarium player having 2 hours to play only, I won't think they won't have great success.
@PD: Well said.



goldslayer1 -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:48:46)

quote:

Maybe I should remind you back that they are NOT the average non varium players that just want to have fun. If they even try, then there's a high possibility that the person will ragequit this game seeing all the full variums flooding all battle modes before they can get even 10k credits.

people like u make too many excuses
u say those non vars aren't average non vars yet u compare me to a casual playing non var.
if the non var wants to have fun and only play like 10 wins a day. then fine let him play 10 wins a day and stick to his current class. he can make a new char if he wants one of the base classes.

1563 wins is easy and can be done in a week. if he cant do it on a week, there is no excuses for him not to be able to do it in 2-3 weeks.


@pd

im not saying they need 300-400 wins.
they can simply squeeze in 5 NPCs rounds (75 wins, and then some) a day for 20 days
and theres ur class change.
but thats not reason to say it is completely impossible as a non var. keep in mind NPCs are 100% and they cant use balance excuses against that.



PD -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:49:00)

Let's get out of the conspiracy theories for a moment and get back to the real issue. Don't get caught up the in delusion that they want to spite you. It's unrealistic.

I for one think that considering the fact that 50000 credits would mean 1563 win. which, if each battle took 2 minutes, would be 52.1 Hours, then I would be inclined to say that 52.1 Hours of work for a class change is too much considering the fact that it most people don't even have the time to play more than 1 hour a day (sometimes, not at all).

Could you really enforce your standards onto someone else? Is that really fair for everyone else when only a few can actually get up high but the other majority can't because of real life limitations that force them to actually put real life priorities up first before a game?

I find that behavior callous because it lacks understanding and perspectives from other people.

It's quite ironic that people wish to have "A relative peaceful metagame where it's fairly equal", yet people don't understand that they can't even follow up because they don't try to look at how others can't do the same, because you people fail to understand what you are really demanding on others.



im not saying they need 300-400 wins.
they can simply squeeze in 5 NPCs rounds (75 wins, and then some) a day for 20 days
and theres ur class change.
but thats not reason to say it is completely impossible as a non var. keep in mind NPCs are 100% and they cant use balance excuses against that.


I find the major fallacy that you realize that It takes 5 hours to get 75 NPC wins a day. People go to school for 8 hours, sleep for 6-7.5 hours, have afterschool tutors for 2 hours, Sports for 2-3 hours, and then do SAT/ACT Prep along with HW, and study with the little remaining time they have left (2-4 hours). There's almost no time for Epicduel pragmatically.

Face it, what you're asking for is generally too much in the context of our real life. It doesn't even fit mathematically.



DeathGuard -> RE: class change cred price reduced (11/27/2011 14:54:16)

@Goldslayer1: If you want to win really fast and get more credits, don't do npcs, it slows you down a lot, I just fight valery and that's all, then full 1 vs 1 and I saw a great improvement in my record, time, and credits. Try it and you will see the difference.



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