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Wootz -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 15:31:41)

Bones, its a yearly occurance.
You can have all the other promotional items that you want.
Why can't you just leave the community alone and let us continue with our lives?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 15:36:09)

well theres obviously no stopping the devs with the founder bike, they already got the bike done, and its friday.

i just hope they atleast have the integrity to come out and say, that was founder's last reward, and then thank them very much.
cause yes, it if keeps going on and on and on, these arguments are bound to pop up.

and i shouldn't have to list down (again for like the 5th time) several pages of reasons as to why founders shouldn't keep getting reward.
while all they do is "im a founder and i payed/supported before u" card to justify their constant pampering by the devs. (yup thats right, time for a diaper change)



MrBones -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 15:36:47)

@Wootz:
The community is free to participate in this debate or not. I for one will be continuing with my life. After all, this is just a small 2d browser game that we need to keep in perspective ...

BUT! It is important to me to shed light on this 'yearly' occurance injustice.



Wootz -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 15:39:38)

It should NOT be their last reward. Let me see you say that in MechQuest or AQWorlds' board.

Bones,
It isn't injustice, tell me how it is. I really do wonder. I mean its not like they get a grand for free.



Ranloth -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 15:40:21)

If Bike is to affect my fights and give me significant advantage over opponent then I'd be with you. Cosmetic item, that much of a problem?
Founder Armor can compete but is beaten - Founder perk gone at high Lvls. 1K Varium - good gift, who said that other supporters won't get that + something else? Beta weapons - beaten for a while now except at their own Lvl range so high Lvls don't have it, Founder perk gone for some. Bike will improve my speed and looks - perk is.. lolwhut, what perk? I didn't know Bike can be used in a fight and crush opponent with Rarity Score! ;o

Goldslayer, Remorse - they both raised your points and guess what? They are okay with it as others will be rewarded to make it equal. Surely you're just an ED player so you won't get how AE works compared to me, when I started with first AE game, AQ, back in 2005 (7yrs ago). Donation items in AQ - you had to upgrade few times in a row (even above $100) to get special weapon as a sign of thank-you and to help maintain financial stability. Weapons were still strong despite being released back in '04 IIRC. They lost on power as a bit better weapons were coming out after.. 3-4yrs? How's that possible yet no one was moaning about it? Donation items were in very early AQ, so it's basically like Founder times as they are perma-rare and you cannot get them in any possible way, ever.
These 2 did argue for *insert quite a few pages here :P* and they are fine now as everyone will get awarded for their support. May I remind you, you pay for Varium to give you advantage not to demand rewards because Founders got them. Reason why Founders got them is just above. And promise from Staff that everyone will get them too, not just Founders, for their support is enough too. Get over the fact, you will get awarded but not in today's release. What else do you want? Destroy remaining community? It exists, maybe we argue at times but we can go for compromise like we all did in DNs topic so time to get over it and give it some time.

Another edit: Before you start saying that I'm a Founder and biased opinions - sorry but I didn't want a bike but it's a nice reward. I won't care if there are or there won't be any more rewards, I still have my items so I'm good (ones given in the past). What if next year they decide to award everyone who supported the game, including Founders, with free Bot that might not have effect like Gamma Bot but be weaker. Great for those who don't have a Bot and supported ED & it'd be rare Bot so rarity item.



MrBones -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 15:48:02)

What is this destroying community you keep blabing about ?

Again TRANS, if you took the time to read my posts, you would know this discussion is not about the bike itself. You would also know, as I pointed out in a previous post, that the previous rewards/perks founders recieved and wheter they were enough is for another debate.

I made compromises EVERY times founders received a perk/reward in the past. Now I have had enough



goldslayer1 -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 15:56:07)

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It should NOT be their last reward. Let me see you say that in MechQuest or AQWorlds' board.

aqw has upholders. which is annual and a 1 TIME REWARD. not buy 1st upholder this year and get rewards every year forever for just spending $5. (yes i know people that spent $5 for 1st upholder)

and founders in AQW, get a pet dragon each year. they didn't get a weapon or anything that affect gameplay as severe as founder armor did.

for 2 years founder completely outclassed every other armor.
while the rest of an unappreciated bunch had to keep buying the new best thing to keep up while founders all they had to do was equip their founder armor. and since they had no need for another armor, that means they saved varium on other ingame armors at the time. allowing them to get more weapons and enhancements at the time with a single package, than the regular non founder.
this also includes the huge rating bonus of founder achievement. its by far the biggest achievement in the game (tied up with elites) and not even war general has close enough ratings compared to that. and war general, (if u were using super bombs) cost about $1000.
wheres the fairness in that? a cheevo that could cost $20,$35 (with insanely Op armor at the time), $50 (with armor aswell) completely outclasses war general which cost $1000 in super war bombs, and an insane great deal of hardcore grinding efforts (which no one has done, due to obvious reason of war being rushed) to get.

did i mention how the armor outclassed everything else?
how about the bragging rights? the "i am founder, we're better" so called line that several founders have used in the past.
then later the buffs on the armors as request of founders, because a new line of released armor had 1 more resistance point, because they "felt" ripped off. i dont think u felt ripped off, u just didn't want to buy a new armor like everyone else.

and please dont compared ED to AQW or vice versa, because they are 2 completely different games, created by different staff, and these are different situations.

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Again TRANS, if you took the time to read my posts, you would know this discussion is not about the bike itself. You would also know, as I pointed out in a previous post, that the previous rewards/perks founders recieved and wheter they were enough is for another debate.

dont bother trying, i tried to explain it to him thats theres a difference. he just brings up the bike, and the cindy quote.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:05:26)

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Goldslayer, Remorse - they both raised your points and guess what? They are okay with it as others will be rewarded to make it equal.

i never said that. its good that constant supporters, are getting rewarded. but founders support over 2 years ago, and theyre still getting rewarded.

and im fine with supporters being rewarded and all, but trans thats another topic. that isn't a "founder" topic.
the founder topic here is, why should founders get more stuff when they supported a long time ago? whos to say that they still supporting. the ones who should be getting rewards are the ones who spent over X amount of money, later again for another X amount of money (which would be larger requirement than the first one). and maybe if they decide, they can pop up a "whoever has purchase any package within this month (regardless of current promo) will recieve a reward for supporting the game" thats rewarding.
this founder thing thats been going on. thats pampering.

@OBA
this topic should be here so it can be discussed. (weather u like what the topic is about or not)
also u sound very rude, to intervene on the topic, tell us to shut up, without giving any reasons as to why.
thats not really constructive criticism. nor are u contributing on the original topic or matter.



MrBones -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:07:48)

Thank you Goldie..

You and I are making really good points. Points that we made many times in this forum. I sure hope people wil take the time to sit down down and read every posts in this thread.

I also wish Cinderella would comment on this in some other way than '' don't worry we will get you guys something when it is ready o'clock time''.



Ranloth -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:07:56)

What I meant is okay with facts supporters will also get awarded, not just Founders.

And your idea of support rewards, I think I posted the same in DNs earlier which I'm also for.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:11:42)

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What I meant is okay with facts supporters will also get awarded, not just Founders.

yeah im ok with that too, they supported aswell (with say X amount of times)

but the real issue is, founders only support one time payment for founder. and since then they have been rewarded.
the argument is, when will it stop? and should it or should it not.
as far as im concerned, the should not, has a LOT more reasons to stopping the constant founder rewards.



DeathGuard -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:24:35)

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Anyways the complaining about founders getting a stupid bike is ignorance, I would be mad if it had be a weapon or an armor but a simple bike won't hurt me. I do agree in something with Bones, high varium payers should be rewarded also by something nice, not only a several group of people.

There should be three rewards in appreciation week:
-Founders' Appreciaton
-Varium Payers' appreciation
-Nonvarium's [All Players] appreciation
It is the most fair appreciation since each group is being rewarded by what it has do/support.
A post from me in Dns thread, enjoy



Algorithm -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:41:15)

@Gold, why should this be their last reward? Is it because you aren't a founder lol?



Wootz -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:43:48)

I just give up on you.
If you want to be complete selfish "something"-holes then have your fun.
I don't need to get a warning for using "innapropriate" language so that I can tow it in your head.
Gratz you win.
Have fun while it lasts.

(Blue is pretty isn't it?)



rej -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:45:03)

At MrBones:
I feel you bro. Some players have contributed as much (or more) than founders, yet they most certainly don't get special perks and an achievement worth 5,500 rating points. HOWEVER, making a topic like this won't resolve anything. Literally nothing good ever comes from these types of topics, only trolling and hurt feelings.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:50:50)

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why should this be their last reward? Is it because you aren't a founder lol?

even if i was a founder, i wouldn't be asking for more things, or want more things. nor saying "get over it" to others arguing thats unfair(when it is unfair).

if i was a founder, i would have felt very thanked with all the other things i gotten in the past.
cheevos
armor buffs (like 3)
the 1k var

if i were a founder, i would be very fine with that reward. (but not constant rewarding)
because founder armor was probably the biggest best item in the game for such a long time.
i would have humility for the rewards that i already gotten, and wouldn't be asking for more.

dont insinuate that im debating this because im not a founder, (because i would debate it even if i was one) im debating it because this is just simply going to the point where its unjust. and im trying to bring about fairness and equality thru my replies on these things.



Lord Nub -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:56:15)

Shame yall can't see that every single time something is unobtainable by another that other feels the need to complain.

I recall General being unobtainable and all sorts of opposition to it. The players who obtained it spent quite a bit yet it wasn't deserved because the community thought "I can't get it so I'm going to fight against it!"

Now players are saying that players who have paid more than others deserve something instead of others? Isn't that the same as getting General? Players who spent more got something that has no affect on battle yet the same players fighting against this release also fought against that achievement and using words that they were against previously?!?!? Come on....just accept this is human nature and humans are prone to jealousy...

If you weren't a part of the supporting community during a certain phase you don't receive the benefits as such. Founder bike in this case and War General in last months case. Get over it and worry about what you can do.



rej -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:57:11)

You know, I truly would have preferred if the developers had completely ignored founders for the rest of this game's existence. By trying to reward Founders, they have inadvertently insinuated yet another ream of Founder-non Founder debates.



Sparticus -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:58:05)

It's just a bike, grow up and get over it.



Algorithm -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 16:58:41)

So who was it that asked for a Founder Bike, i'm curious.



Fay Beeee -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 17:02:18)

I am a founder and proud to be one.
AND for your information. I have NEVER asked for anything for founders.

I also have never said NOT give the others something or been jealous of someone winning what I did not.
This was just to put the records straight.



Laces -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 17:03:59)

I will simply repost what I said on the DN thread.

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I don't see why you people are arguing so much over a bike. Honestly. Its a bike. Does it help Founders in battle? No. Does it give Founders extra stat boosts? No. Can Founders sell the bike for Varium/Credits? No. So why, pray tell, are you complaining? Now, if Founders were to get a weapon/bot, you could prove your case that everyone else who supported this game after Founders should get something. But if your honestly going to whine about Founders getting an item that is simply for looks, that sir, is pathetic. This is really sad to see people complaining about not getting a bike.


Cindy has already stated that they will be rewarding players besides Founders but they do not have the time to implement it yet and they're still working on it. Calm down and wait.




rej -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 17:08:27)

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I am a founder and proud to be one.
AND for your information. I have NEVER asked for anything for founders.

I also have never said NOT give the others something or been jealous of someone winning what I did not.
This was just to put the records straight.

We know, Fay, it's just that other people who occupy the position of Founder have tarnished the name with elitism sentiment, and the people bashing them were too lazy to exclude you from the list of antagonists. :)



Calogero -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 17:09:37)

Like I said last year, Founders imo Have been rewarded enough. They got an armor that was the best and still is one of the best.
They have their own Cheevo. Last year also 1000 Varium.

If ANYONE should be getting that ' founder ' bike, it should be the Elites ( No I'm no Elite ) and maybe Alphas

@Fay Below

Yes but they should be the ONLY ones that get it... Serious
What is the difference between Elites and Founder these days? Nothing



Fay Beeee -> RE: Rewards (2/24/2012 17:20:07)

Elites are getting it.



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