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Hun Kingq -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/6/2012 17:37:08)

level 34 clubs with 9 or greater dex
Delta maul
+10 dex
10 enhancement

Frost Destroyer
+9 tech
+9 dex
10 enhancement

Golden Draconic Axe
+11 Dex
5 enhancement



BlueKatz -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/6/2012 19:57:55)

The only reason why BM is not OP because CH still block more...



Goony -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/6/2012 20:20:56)

As a merc, I eat those str BM for breakfast... Took me a while to get my build and strategy worked out, but unless I get frostbitten I am ok with them now. Same goes for str BH!

Really enjoying this new era of balance in Epic Duel and the evolution of new builds and strategy. The str BM are certainly not unbeatable ;)



AQWPlayer -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/6/2012 20:57:30)

HerpDerp *cough*luck*cough*high dex TMs can't beat high str BMs*cough*



Goony -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/6/2012 21:00:47)

*cough splutter* defence matrix/technician *cough*



Darkeroid -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 3:28:12)

Isa:You use that build or not,TLMs were able to 2/3 hit kill me.How,You ask?Smoke-Double strike and then if im still alive,Strike.I was alive still,Then i was lucky.Now-a-days,I stand a chance against TLMs.Sure,The FC builds kill me still.So does the poison build.You know,you TLMs
want those 2/3 hit KOs back.TLMs are NOT,I repeat,NOT here to get you free and easy wins.ED is a game about stategy,thinking.



Ranloth -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 4:15:43)

I forgot to mention, it's relevant

It's not us who got stronger, it's you who got weaker. We were always that strong, you could simply destroy our builds.



drinde -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 4:33:38)

Right, there IS a way to solve this.

Bezerker/Fireball -> Assimilation/Atom Smasher



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 10:38:53)

@Trans And that's why you are too strong since we can't compete with you anymore. And need a nerf.



Darkeroid -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 10:51:40)

CHs need a nerf and you guys need a tiny buff.



Ranloth -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:26:06)

Really? You go on how about TLMs are UP'ed. Have you looked at Mercs? There's no point in arguing with you anymore, quite a few people told you a lot of things but you seem to have your own opinion - "One build to rule them all!" - and won't even bother to re-train and get counter-strategy. They are beatable, you just make up puny arguments like no Club makes Atom useless for you so less strategy as you cannot beat all builds so what to do is.. rant on forum how they are OP'ed.
This IS balance, get over it. We were at LOWER level than you and had to adapt, yet now we're equal but your puny arguments make people think like you're not, make you think like we are gods? Change build simply. Won't kill you, you just fail to adapt after not even a week while every single class had to adapt to you lot while you were OP'ed for past 8 months.
Mineral + SS build = works MUCH better than for Mercs due to Reroute and Mineral giving more Def. Will you try it? No, let's rant!
Str + Poison build = most Str players went for that and can compete as much. Will you try it? No, let's rant!
Multi + Tank build = works fine for Mercs, better for TLMs due to Reroute. Will you try it? No, let's rant!

That's all you do. You fail to adapt, blame other classes to be OP'ed and go on and on about it. I'm awaiting for you saying that Mercs are OP'ed, I will seriously lose hope in people's common sense after that.
Btw, it's you who argues about TLMs only. I said it twice now too. Try other builds, it's not "One build to rule them all!" so stop saying your build can't beat them, that's your build's weakness and not our problem. Change your build as you simply fail to adapt.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:36:36)

@Trans I tried a Mineral + SS build. It failed because it takes to long to kill and does nothing against high res. Str + Poison build it still failed due to the fact poison can't kill. Multi + Tank build not bother trying that one as you can't be a tank and have high support for a strong multi. Fail. So get your facts straight. I'm not going to keep wasting my creds on other builds when none of them will work. This IS NOT balance that we are the only class without a debuff skill and our buff skill is useless. And stop with "FC will be getting a buff" it was already buffed quite a few weeks ago so that kills that arguement. Don't beleive me PM Ashari or Cindy they'll tell you. I'm done arguing. We TLMs are UP. And TMs, and BMs with their new/old builds are OP. Fact. CHs are so obviously OP. Fact. I'm done arguing if you refuse to see the truth. I will not stop until something is done. And if something is not done then I'm quiting. Because I can't change to another OP class unless I have a lot of varium to become fully equipped. Which I don't. I'm not going to adapt to being UP. End of discussion.



Oba -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:41:32)

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It failed because it takes to long to kill


/facepalm

Again, TLM's are not UP. If you lose a few battles now, then its balanced. You should not be able to beat everyone with the same build. And this is why a class not should be OP for so long. The players are to used with it so once they get equal with the other classes they say its UP...

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Well I'm not use to this. Every since I joined this game I had the OP classes.


So, you have always been the OP classes. And now when you are balanced you complain that other classes is OP so they get nerfed... and lookie at that, you are OP again..
As I said, you are to used being OP so you just cant play as an equal class.



Calogero -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:46:44)

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Because I can't change to another OP class unless I have a lot of varium to become fully equipped.


this made me lol, so you are just an OP Class jumper... Not even trying to adapt to the changes



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:47:22)

@Oba Yeah I lose 6 out of 10 battles. That sure is balanced. Sure we are equal with all the other classes. I hope they get nerfed as in friday. If you are gonna be blind and completely ignore such obvious things. Then I'm done arguing. @andy123 I tried to adapt I changed my build twice. Did NOTHING. I'm done trying to help you if you wont realize the truth.



Prime Assassin -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:49:46)

dude your non varium man your not suspose to kill varium people. if u were equal whats the point of even buying varium.



DestruRaGe -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:50:07)

Something is wrong with Blood Mages. I don't know what, but something.



Ranloth -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:51:30)

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Don't beleive me PM Ashari or Cindy they'll tell you.

I did! What should I expect from them? Prove that TLMs are not UP'ed nor OP'ed? That FC and Intimidate are due to revamp mentioned in January? Fine.
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I'm done arguing. We TLMs are UP.

Funny thing, you started the arguing too! :3 And sure you are, then Mercs are what? Definition of balanced or OP'ed? :D
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And TMs, and BMs with their new/old builds are OP.

We have SAME power as we had before, you did NOT see it as you yourself was too strong and their damage was drastically reduced or not good enough to break through your builds.
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And if something is not done then I'm quiting. Because I can't change to another OP class unless I have a lot of varium to become fully equipped.

Quit, no one is holding you. You had your fun, feel free to go. You can't change to ANOTHER OP class? There is NO OP class but CHs which will get another change as it wasn't enough. You prove yourself that you want to be OP'ed, and WE have to adapt? If you can't adapt NOW, think how WE felt and DID adapt. (capitals used so you can read clearly)
Cool story bro, what other points do you have to make? Perhaps Strike is too strong?



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:52:18)

@Prime Ugh yeah you're are suppose to be able to have a chance. Var is suppose to give an advantage not instant K.O. It isn't my fault you wasted 900$ on this game when you already know how it is.



Oba -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:54:38)

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I tried to adapt I changed my build twice.


Holy jesus, did you change build two whole times? -.-
Since I changed to BM I have retrained atleast 20 times (Changed to it about a month ago). Getting a good build requires some testing.. Go rebuild and test out different things before complaining...
And is prime said, you are a f2p player so you should not have a 100% wins. What would the point being in paying then?
I for one think its you who are blind, since all you see is that people can actually beat you now. As I said, its not a OP class anymore, and you just cant deal with not playing OP.



ND Mallet -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:57:22)

@isaiah When the new classes first came out, I tried BM really early on. The first thing I noticed was that even on Non Varium TLMs were beating up on me and I had some of the best strength gear in the game at the time (Founder Armor, Frostbolt, Chainstaff). Varium is an advantage. Non varium TLMs were outclassing varium players from every other class. Why buy varium when I could switch to TLM and beat everyone else besides varium TLMs?



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 11:59:43)

@Trans Why do you keep insisting you're right?! It doesn't matter to me how you guys felt and had to adapt. I just care about my own win/lose ratio. Others do not concern me at all. @Oba I can't deal with being UP. Without smoke we are UP. With smoke and my STR build everyone even variums were easy for me now every var is instant K.O and I REFUSE to stand for this. I will not stand for this.



Oba -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 12:02:52)

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With smoke and my STR build everyone even variums were easy for me now every var is instant K.O and I REFUSE to stand for this. I will not stand for this.


^^^^THIS is what I have been saying the whole time. YOU, a non-var player, could easily beat varium, PAYING players, as a TLM. Now you cant beat them that easy anymore. The class is balanced.. It is you who have to change build/playstyle..



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 12:05:57)

@Oba Well we should be able to beat vars. It isn't fair we can't beat them at all. That is saying don't bother to play as a non-var at high lvls because its full of vars and all you will do is lose. Yeah that's a good way to keep more ED players coming!



Ranloth -> RE: Strength Blood Mage (3/7/2012 12:06:21)

It doesn't matter to us if you have worse win/lose ratio. You don't concern us at all.
How low will you get? You don't care what we have to say, how you don't care that WE had to adapt but we did and you go on how you're somehow UP'ed and cannot adapt? We got told to get over it and adapt, by you TLMs. See how it feels right? I'm speaking for most of non-TLM community, you were OP'ed and now we have more chance but you want OP'ness back as Class Jumper? Keep dreaming, we've been at this "power level" since ages ago but you couldn't see it. Keep it going, people will have more laugh as you just fail to adapt and want yourself to be heard while ignoring what others have to say. Respect is earned, you're doing it wrong.

Keep refusing, you're just speaking for yourself. 2 build changes? Right, took me 7 to get TM build right to adapt to TLMs and I still was losing. And I went through few more retrains after, for SC build which did as good and still lost. But 2 is enough to prove that? :')
BMs have no Smoke, are they UP'ed? No. Give up Reroute or Mineral for your Smoke, otherwise your points are poor. It's one of them, and Ashari had a choice of removing Reroute OR Smoke but surely without Reroute it'd be even worse? Keep it coming, class jumper. :3


People, simple tip - stop posting here and let's get back on BM topic. What fuels him is OUR posts then let's stop giving him this satisfaction and a Dev will reply here sometime soon. Yes I did PM Ashari, just like Isaiah told me, so this is pretty much over. Thread got ruined by his TLM arguments which are totally irrelevant to BM discussion.



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