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DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:15:15)

Having in mind few people have actually use SGs in CC, the incoming is low it won't affect game at all. Just as in ED, other people will complain about it and probably will be screwed. So enjoy your "incomings" from CC, seems like OS will be just like ED, lost half its player base and be forgotten. Congratulations!



Mondez -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:19:06)

@Deathguard
Sorry to sound rude, but the only complaint about CC about this issue has been from you.

We have brought up valid points to why it's fair yet you don't seem to see the big picture here. It's your opinion and I respect it, but OS in my opinion will probably become better than ED.



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:21:20)

@deathguard Now listen to this very important thing i am about to tell you.

Their is also no purpose in speaking of the topic on CC anymore I mean the CC isn't perfect but it isn't that bad(Right is actually gives a fair chance to all But yeah Don't waste to much on CC)

@mondez It isn't perfect as I mention and all that death guard has done was state his opinion and why he don't like it
Calling him out doesn't change his opinion on it either and for the record I NEVER LIKED ED.to start with.And so far I would say I like Os so it isn't ED

@Below

asuka Oh plz don't ask him that. Trying to see a person full point of view would be like asking a fish how does it feel like to be a fish----FISH DON"T TALK. He stated something but as an opinion unless he actually has records on people that wasted sg and how many used gold



Asuka -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:23:28)

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Having in mind few people have actually use SGs in CC, the incoming is low it won't affect game at all. Just as in ED, other people will complain about it and probably will be screwed. So enjoy your "incomings" from CC, seems like OS will be just like ED, lost half its player base and be forgotten. Congratulations!


Can you expand on this? Just a bit more?



TheSage -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:24:37)

@DeathGuard : You can already get every card available in CC by using gold, nobody is FORCED to spend SGs on it, but SGs do offer a higher chance at the more RARE HARD TO GET cards then using gold. Don't compare Oversoul to Epic Duel, they are both completely different games and offer different play styles. Compare the FREE stuff available in OS to the SG stuff and you will see there is more FREE in the game then there is SG, and now with CC even FREE characters can use the SAME cards as SG characters.



DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:25:58)

@Mondez: lol I said other people WOULD complain about it, not that they already did so read carefully before posting things that aren't truth.
Is by fair you mean incomings > players' benefit, sure it is *laughs*
Yes it is my opinion, but I don't think OS is leading to a better path than ED now seeing this philosophy of fairness.

@Labyth: Won't probably be playing OS, CC is not worth it from my experience so no point in playing when lvling up chars have become boring.



Mondez -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:26:54)

@Labyth
I'm not trying to instigate him and I did state it was his opinion and I respected it. Please read the above post much more carefully.

@Deathguard
It is much more fair than AQW and ED if you took a look how both their currencies work in-game. I'm not disrespecting you nor making baseless claims, but I'm defending OS on the terms of fair play which it has shown more than the other AE MMO games that I have played.



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:30:40)

@Mondez Don't worry(gives a good thumbs Up) I got some good happy results from Rascal just now I send her on JOB AND FROR GOD SAKE SHE ALREDY GOT GOOD RESULTS>I am happy I am smart and I am happy that people are so easy and Kind to work with .Also Mondez if your interested tell Rascal you want in on it as well.

Now referring to what you said I only said you called him out cause you mention your the only person I seen you complain but since deathguard post fixes that then I have no need to correct.

@below cause he wanted to play a game. Their is no problem in still having hope one reason he has stayed until now. any more questions. Your not understanding Deathguard used to enjoy this game but the new things aren't to his liking and he is just stating it..

@sage your lvl 30 pyromance(that sounded so nerdy just now when I typed it) wow I got pyro when I was lvl 43(because i am lazy in aqw)did you get recently or was it something you already had.



necro rouge -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:31:13)

@deathguard
i do not want to sound rude, but if everything about the game is bad, why are you even here?
and yes, income does come before player satisfaction. as a company, it's better to make money from something people don't like than losing money to please people.



TheSage -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:39:07)

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@sage your lvl 30 pyromance(that sounded so nerdy just now when I typed it) wow I got pyro when I was lvl 43(because i am lazy in aqw)did you get recently or was it something you already had.

@Labyth : i farmed for pyromancer every day on BOTH accounts when it came out, also you were looking at my alt AQW account not my main, my main us linked under the avatar not in the sig. Also that has nothing to do with OS so stop trying to change the subject.

Edit : Also stop trying to recruit "minions" to do your "research" on the forums.



Asuka -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:40:44)

So it's obvious you guys have a bit of an issue with CC. Can you voice it now? What are the problems you are seeing?



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:41:54)

@Sage I noticed that I was just a bit surprised cause well it took me about 9 month since the release to get mine you can probably do the match that I did around 3 quest a week. But yeah I was curious cause most people put A link or just nothing when hey placed their sg

@Sage(again) I am not(cannot believe you would accused me on something that your opinion), I am informang him on how thigns are doing.And said if he wished to talk to rascal he can why cause i am not gonna talk about thing THE AK HAVE TOLD ME NOT TO TALK ABOUT IN THE FORUM.But yeh I shall delete the info on those post if you wish me to.

@asuka you can tell warlic CC wasn't and at the same time was how I expected but so far overall I LOVE IT. Also I might send you the gltiches and bugs thing I send Sage(which I also explain to you if you care) to you cause most of the time I see your around on the forum and not him.

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NEVER GIVE UP HOPE ON GOLD



necro rouge -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:46:04)

@asuka
the issue seems to be that you can possibly get infinite "useless" cards while never getting the cards you want. with the limited number of cards and the fact that you can see the card counter makes the common card collecting problem of getting duplicates all the more transparent.



clintonian -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:50:44)

dang it



Mondez -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:53:50)

@Asuka
No problems with CC at all.

Tomorrow Shadow series comes out and I have a ton o gold to spend.



DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 22:54:32)

@Asuka: Find a way so that the useless cards are actually helpful, rather than being dead money.
SGs actually having a better chance for rare cards ( I have not prove it myself but I got friends who have and they say they have gotten repeated cards and they wouldn't spend SGs on it anymore)
As said before, restricting cards like shatter, mountain strike, etc. I did a list of them in the first pages.

@On topic: Reached full exp bar with PW in lvl 20, too bad there's no lvl 21 and exp can't be saved when a character evolves.



Asuka -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:01:03)

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@Asuka: Find a way so that the useless cards are actually helpful, rather than being dead money.
SGs actually having a better chance for rare cards ( I have not prove it myself but I got friends who have and they say they have gotten repeated cards and they wouldn't spend SGs on it anymore)
As said before, restricting cards like shatter, mountain strike, etc. I did a list of them in the first pages.


The way the cards are, most were improved in damages by slight and great amounts to make cards more desireable. Not all cards will be great. I can tell you that. They're both a chance of a dice. SG has better chances, but you can still get the same cards as SG buyers with gold. You're not limited to that.

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@asuka
the issue seems to be that you can possibly get infinite "useless" cards while never getting the cards you want. with the limited number of cards and the fact that you can see the card counter makes the common card collecting problem of getting duplicates all the more transparent.


That is also a thing I mentioned above. Not all the cards will be great. You can see that by the judge of star rarity they have. The more stars the less uncommon/rare it is to get. 1-2 stars are usually very common.

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@asuka you can tell warlic CC wasn't and at the same time was how I expected but so far overall I LOVE IT. Also I might send you the gltiches and bugs thing I send Sage(which I also explain to you if you care) to you cause most of the time I see your around on the forum and not him.


Hmm, alright.



DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:03:14)

@Asuka: you misunderstand it. by useless I meant not weak cards, instead a use of the rest of the cards that can't be equipped e.g. 204 attack cards? How many I have? 25 so I can use only 5 but what about the rest? It would be actually cool if they had a use or could be sold maybe? That way it would actually won't be that bad.



Beck -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:04:09)

I am feeling much better about CC now that I've stopped buying packs xD

I do get the frustration of spending tons of Gold/SG (or in my case, both...) on cards, and never getting the ones you one though.
In real life card games, if you get too frustrated trying to get that ONE CARD you can never find, there's always the ebay option. Oversoul needs something like that. Where you pay lots of SG/Gold for just that one card you are missing.



DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:05:20)

^I had prefer to pay a direct amount of SGs or big amount of gold for the complete deck instead.
EDIT: What would you guys said if we could sell leftover cards to regain part of gold? Maybe 200-400 per card sold would still be something.



hijinks -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:10:11)

I actually wished it was just a shop where we could buy the cards separately. Each with it's own price (set accordingly to how useful/powerful it is). I'm not a fan of this, as it actually feels like gambling. You pay 15k gold or 4 sgs to get the chance to get the cards you want.

EDIT:
@Deathguard

Good idea, I wish we can sell cards. But moreover, we should be able to sell characters we got for gold and characters captured with or without an SG.



Lemonus -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:10:38)

Aw man, OS gear coming to AQW... that I CAN'T GET? This is just sad... very sad :'(

Maybe SG buyers get a bonus... but I highly doubt it.



DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:13:36)

Normal sellback of credit/gold items in other AE games are mayority of times 15% sellback. Each pack costs 15k and contains 5 card, meaning each card costs 3k each.
3000 x 0.15= 450 gold per card sold. It would actually be a nice addition to the game.



Labyth -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:19:33)

That doesn't sound that bad



Mirai Hoshino -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 123 - READ THE FIRST POST (5/16/2013 23:22:25)

My only problem with card customization is the time it takes to change cards. If I want to change characters fairly frequently, I have to wait on loading screens. It would be nice if the devs could find a way to tune that a bit.

I've got enough surplus gold saved up to buy a couple of Shadow packs when they launch. I'm not sure I'll get much use out of them for now, though. I only have a few shadow characters, and I'm not sure the Witchblade or Blood Ranger will benefit much if at all. On the other hand, my Void Incarnate could use some more card variety, but she's a veteran character.



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