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DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/3/2014 23:58:07)

@TFP: How it was nerfed? I didn't saw a change on its deck tbh

To be honest, I had rather had the Snow Orb already in the deck and add the Ice Wall as CC since for farming lvls against AI, you wouldn't need a 3rd Ice Wall IMO.




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 0:00:48)

http://oversoulgame.wikidot.com/xmas-elf

Pre-nerf Xmas Elf had 2 Shatters and 2 Healing Springs, the nerf replaced these with 2 Frost Bites and 2 Refreshes, respectively.




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 0:04:02)

Energy and water would be a good idea but it would have to run super charge instead of arc IMO since arc takes to long and water Heal isn't the fastest.




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 0:05:39)

@TFP: That's a horrible nerf right there. I absolutely hate Frost bites and even Refreshes, a waste of space card in the deck, dead weight exaggerately, ugh :(




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 0:07:49)

Well we know the two reasons why it was nerfed >.> Dylligraphy how about King vs Queen whose the true ruler of OS. -_- lol Triadan is the ice master now?




megakyle777 -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 1:44:08)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in terms of Ice Master, would not that title go to whomever won the forum Ice Tournament? On matters of official record at least.

And personally, I don't really see too much issues with all the card as they are right now, but then I don't really play competitively.




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 2:00:03)

No tourney has been set yet after Beck won against me. To be honest, since the last time I actually fought all against him and the time when we had personal conflicts between each of us, I couldn't even consider Beck a rival anymore, not in terms of power, but in attitude.

Regardless, Beck is still the Ice Master. I can't just take off that title neither other player does. If somebody wants to claim such title or claim for someone else, a tourney must be done. Self claiming isn't even worth.





The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 8:47:55)

Yeah, Triadan, you can't just claim yourself a master of any element, especially when you're not very good. You also said I earned the chance to fight "the true grand champion" after I beat clinton in the energy tournament. I thought you were joking at the time, but you seem to actually have some huge ego that doesn't have much support. How good you are with an element is not really relevant to balance anyway.




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 8:55:29)

By that logic I would be the champion cause I've beat the winner of tournaments after the fact several times. To be the true master you need to be well rounded able to win with the best and worse of that element.


@everyone since I was the first to get level 20 King where can I post to get to that one list of people who get level 20 first?




The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 9:13:45)

How about no one claims they're the champion of elements? [;)]




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 9:18:07)

OS just needs to be updated and we need to do tournaments more three month breaks take to long and im sure it was said we would start the new one this month gonna go ask mrthria.

Actually when it comes to ice characters changing one cards can make a big difference think about Frost Dragon its pretty mediocre but if it had a freeze card it easily would be the best ice character in game.

Also whats the deal with you NPC was it your birthday or something or can we expect something worth while from it?


Also can you talk to nulgath about another character suggestion contest we should of had one by now?

Post combine due to staff edit creating a double post. ~Kiyone




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 13:02:03)

Ice Walls + Healing Springs would still be quite the defence even without Freeze, but as is Xmas Elf is still not that bad if you just CC in the cards it lost.

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Well we know the two reasons why it was nerfed >.> Dylligraphy how about King vs Queen whose the true ruler of OS. -_-


Great Pumpking is a good deal better than Queen Aegea, but then again I never really considered Queen Aegea the ruler because of how good Neutral and Energy characters are. She does relatively well against Neutrals because she has the defence to play around Iron Hide, but it generally can't get going against characters like Volt Engineer and as far as I remember Neutrals still have an advantage against her because they can use more Corruptions and Corruption is awfully good, especially in numbers against non-Neutral opponents.

It's pretty clear from our duels yesterday that Great Pumpking also comes out quite a bit on top against Omni Knight (thanks for the tests btw, there was really just nothing I could do whatsoever and I tried a few builds, early discarding, super early discarding, just straight up charging, and still with the same result of getting murdered each time), though I feel as though this is more to the point of Omni Knight handling stuns badly and being countered in that sense as its energy gets overloaded than Omni Knight being ineffective in general. It's also becoming an increasingly apparent possibility that I was wrong to hype Omni Knight as much as I have and it's more or less another Cyber Void but I suppose time will tell, it has the benefit of being able to adapt on multiple levels if new Light/Water/Energy/Neutral cards come out later on and is just a very unique character in general so it shouldn't be counted out just yet.




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 13:20:05)

OS needs some new cards exclusive by character race such as archfiends.




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 13:32:38)

Cool, like Bash and Thrash right I could get behind that. Would be a neat way to introduce spells used by characters of different elements.




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 13:40:07)

A card called Soul steal made only for the high ranking soul stealers like Nulgath take so much health and give it straight to you as health.




ChaosRipjaw -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:04:15)

Sounds like a super version of life drain.

I already made a similar card to that, except it's titled "Soul Devour" and what it does is convert all remaining DoT damage into one single attack. (2 turns of Poison left, it does 600 damage)




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:06:24)

^Cool, how much energy would it cost and would it be for multiple DoTs or just one?




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:09:34)

That is broken spam 3 poisons then use that to do 2700 in one turn plus the 900 from the previous turn for 3600 damage.




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:15:52)

Possibly depending on how much it costs though, if it were 20 energy then it'd be totally not a problem for opponents.




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:19:24)

It would be useless then. The shadow version of Ice orb lol




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:22:51)

Then we'd better give it a stun too. [8D]




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:28:39)

Yeah im down for that earth needs a card called R9 that does 2000 damage and goes through shields for 12 energy.




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:32:01)

Right and they should temporarily release characters with 1-shots to draw players in and then nerf them once the smoke clears. [:D]




Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:36:44)

Its actually not a really broke card give it a 10% chance of going through shields.




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:46:30)

Maybe but currently 12 energy is currently only used for Meteorite and Retribution which do significantly less.




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