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Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 14:49:50)
Moutain strike does 1000 damage for 6 double it and its still fair just don't put it in CC packs.

The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 15:07:47)
I think that it's instant, condenses two cards in one, and has a chance to pierce make it fairly worse than Mountain Strike balance-wise and Earth is already one of the better elements so if it were to get a card like that then the other elements would need some attention too.

Vertigo Beast -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 15:16:39)
Mountain Strike also gives people time to prepare for it and can't go through shields. So thats not exactly a good comparison... Making it a 2000 DoT that has a chance to go through shields and hits after 2 turns then 12 would be fine. Just my thoughts Also, why not a skill kinda of like Charged but makes all your attacks unblockable for earth characters? That'd be kinda neat maybe give it a +1 and unblockable and cost like 4 or 5 energy? Also, quote: Gorillo Titan: @everyone since I was the first to get level 20 King where can I post to get to that one list of people who get level 20 first? Didn't know there was a list for this :o

Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 15:48:35)
Hey im one of the hardest working people on the OS forum I spent years trying to get people and new things done for OS some have worked other haven't but im proud to at least try. @Dylligraphy I'm fully down for new cards for other elements and I've even brought up the idea of cards for example wildfire a fire card that by giving up a card it burns away 1000 shield of the enemy. Whirlpool a water DOT card. Piercing light a light card that destroys all counter on the field. Electrocution a very special lightning card that remain on the field by sacrificing cards to it the damage it will do increases by the amount of the cards given up to it. A earth card called aftershock would be CC and works in combo with EQ to do 600 damage a turn after the enemy is hit with EQ. Has no other use unless used with EQ. Could could even do 300 turn after the 600 turn. Random thought she was just an elf right meaning Santa needs to be stronger than she is. Post merge to staff create double post. ~Kiyone

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 16:48:29)
The North Pole isn't really a strength-based society. Followers can be stronger than their leader.

Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 17:00:27)
Santa can travel around the world in 24 hours the earth moves at 66k mph now factoring him going inside all of those house and leaving presents he has to be moving even faster than that plus the fact he's magic and at least twice the height of an elf he should easily be strong than them.

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 17:21:37)
It's generally accepted that Santa isn't the fastest man on earth and just delivers presents with the power of Christmas magic (a.k.a. holiday purchases).

Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 17:28:14)
You do know santa isn't real right?

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 17:33:07)
Yes, that's why I said the Christmas magic is holiday purchases/people buying things for each other. You're the one trying to scientifically prove how strong a fictional being is. [:D]

The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 17:41:35)
quote: You do know santa isn't real right? Excuse me!?

Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 17:50:19)
Actually Santa is real aka Saint Nicholas who Santa is based off of its a video game why y'all trying to make a big deal about OS Santa is Nulgath anyway.

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 20:12:41)
Saint Nicholas was real, but he was not a jolly, fat man who delivered presents to all the good people of the world in one night.

Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 21:18:10)
There was a man who use to bring present to the kids of a near by town when he lived in the forest. Why are we talking about this I was talking about the fictional character Santa.

ChaosRipjaw -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 21:42:01)
quote: OS Santa is Nulgath anyway. Jack Skellington trying to be Santa xD quote: wildfire a fire card that by giving up a card it burns away 1000 shield of the enemy. Except that it's titled Molten Lava . . . http://forums2.battleon.com/f/upfiles/466221/F9EC2254205C4BE7A978ABE3A7FABB88.jpg Also, found the Soul Devour. I think the energy cost is wrong xD http://forums2.battleon.com/f/upfiles/466221/E8718F9DE9854A9CA6D8D9AF7900ADC2.jpg

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 21:50:47)
That sounds about right actually. Imagine if you had 3 Marks of Death like Gorillo said, so you instantly did 2700 damage and healed 1350.

Vertigo Beast -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 22:34:29)
@Jop You won't be able to have 3 Marks of Death active and then use that card. 3 marks of death is 18 energy, and before you could charge back up to 20 to use Soul Devour they would all have ended. What that card would be extremely powerful on would be a Shadow Character with Neutralize + Corruption cuz you could use Other element DoTs and still have enough to use the Soul Devour.

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 22:40:08)
Good point.

Kiyone -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 22:45:43)
Just playing it safe here and give a friendly thread reminder for everyone. Remember theirs going to be times with you will have different views from your fellow poster which is allowed and encoruage. But we have to remember to be friendly about the different view point. Theirs going to be time when we need to agree to disagree and move on with the conversation. So lets get back to the good old crazy OS posting we all enjoy! ~Kiyone Archknight of Oversoul General Discussion

DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 23:13:06)
I went and took a look and my lvl 20 Lance Knight and gave me quite a bit of frustration that it has become so outdated in comparison to other characters. Tharr, while I never liked him too much apart from his deck, reminds me of how strong Sir Galahad used to be when it got released. Since nerf on a character is possible as well as switching cards, could some of the old characters get some buff please? Some characters may not even get an evo so I think a buff would be much appreciated. Earth Wizard Current weakness: Its deck has currently a Veteran's deck power. Possible buff: Remove this cards: 2x 100 attack 1x pierce 100 attack 1x 200 attack 1x Crush 2x Stone Strike Add: 2x 500 attack cards 2x EarthQuake 1x Tree of Life 2x Stone Wall 1x Mountain Strike New deck 1x 200 attack 4x 500 attack 2x 500 defend 2x Stone Wall 1x Crush 2x EarthQuake 1x Tree of Life 2x Mountain Strike Barbarian Remove: 1x 100 attack 1x 100 pierce attack 1x Ice Orb x1 500 defend Add: 1x Shatter 1x Snow Orb 1x 500 attack 1x Ice Needle Paladin Bill Assassin Storm Knight Wolf(Master) Void Fiend (Master) Alexis Abberant Sir Galahad I will be adressing possible buffs to such characters and hopefully they will get a 2nd chance to be used. EDIT: Will be editing slowly on the deck suggestions. Hopefully it serves a purpose.

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 23:16:43)
Doubtful. I mean, cards are the only things that determine a character's power, so trying to buff old ones would just make a lot of very similar characters, which is boring. Power creep is just something we have to deal with, as developers come up with new and interesting decks.

Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 23:23:02)
The jop sage had another convo between when he first came out and the one he has now.

DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 23:30:34)
@The Jop: Power Creep can be solve doing some changes on older characters, specially the ones bought with SGs that became outdated after CC and new addition of the cards. IMO, it would be a nice way of showing appreciation for older players who used those characters and have yet to want to keep using them for some time even though they are outdated.

The Jop -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/4/2014 23:44:10)
I guess, but I don't really like making a lot of similar characters because then the ~300 characters would be a lot more boring.

Gorillo Titan -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/5/2014 0:02:30)
Not every character needs to be good just like not every character needs a rank up.

Vertigo Beast -> RE: =OS= Balance Discussion Thread (11/5/2014 14:27:45)
I think it would make sense to give some buffs to some of the older characters that required Soul Gems to acquire like Earth Wizard, ShadowDance, Frost Void and some others just because they did cost some money and those same amount of SGs now could get you a more powerful character. The only problem is that doing this could make more of the characters very similar so I would only want this to happen if the characters stay fairly unique in their decks. The decks don't need to be amazing but bringing some of them up to par would be fine in my opinion as long as they don't just become copies of other characters.

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