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Hiduke -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 18:48:13)

What everyone Up to or training or fighting?
me I am just waiting for rat to make it appearance.
an you guys?

@Below I thought you had left tut you were really trying to solve the puzzle. But what CC had come out since that picture I mean he could have used other elements you do have huge correct quote statement that I can see it occurring but the rest I do feel like you do have the basic just that we don't have the whole picture.




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 18:49:30)

I should restate my hypothesis, the last element he charged was ice, but since he had ice cards dealing +70 more damage, he had ice CC but which ones?
quote:

That was pretty easy, I manage to know what he did.
The initial was 5 water, so he charged once to get to 7 water
Now he had to do that with the other elements, but he had some trump card:
You start with 1, second time you have 3, then 6 charges in each element and that was when he stopped. He did that with the other elements until he had
Neutral 7 (He charged two times from 4 to 7)
Fire 6
Ice 6
Energy 6
Chaos 6
Earth 6
Water 7
Light 6
Shadow 6

Then he proceeded to charge the elements with 6 and the charge reset itself when changing elements, so the charges became 1 and added to the current 6 becoming 7. Labyrinth solved.


Well, he had 2 525, 1 515, 1 204 and x1 101 attack cards. The extra damage add up to 70: 50+15+4+1=70.
When you're a lvl 8, you have 2900 hp, meaning he did 1870 with the Ice cards and did 1100 more with normal water cards, x2 500 water attack cards and x1 100 attack cards.
I can give out a hypothesis of how he healed, defend, and killed, but they are many ways it can happen, at least I managed to get the basic statement.

@Hiduke: Nah, not leaving yet.
Anyways I'm training Queen Ghypsophila to 20, missing one lvl, and then retraining once again Frost Lycan(almost lvl 13).
@Hiduke: Ice, Shadow, Light, Neutral and Water series were out when he did that Labyrinth.
@The Jop: Yeah, he was a bit rough on others' opinion.




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:07:19)

Sorry I'll try to explain it better and yall'll be able to do this pretty quick, it only takes about a minute or so once you know how:

Step 1: Find how many of card you want to calculate for are in your deck (7 Defends for our example) and how many total cards are in your deck (20).
Step 2: Find the number of cards that aren't that card, to do this just subtract the number of that card from the total cards in your deck, so 20-7=13.
Step 3: Take the difference from step 2 (which is 13) and put it over your total cards (which is 20) to get (13/20).
Step 4: Since there are five slots, you do (13/20) to the power of 5 which is (13/20) times itself 5 times. To do this you just type (13/20)^5 in Google.
Step 5: Take the product from step 4 (Google gives 0.116029063), and subtract that from 1, so just do 1-0.116029063.
Step 6: Take the difference from step 5 (0.883970937) and multiply by 100 to convert from a decimal to a percent and you get 88% if you round.

Now that seems like a lot of steps, but most of the steps you don't even have to think about. I'll do a few more scenarios for examples.

Without CC's, Taurus has a 17 card deck with 2 Petrifies in it. There are 15 cards that are not Petrify. (15/17)^5=0.534824986, subtract that from 1 you get 0.465175014 which translates to a 47% chance of drawing Petrify in your first hand.

If I CC Earth Elemental with 5 Mountain Strikes, it will have a 20 card deck with 6 Mountain Strikes in it. There are 14 cards that are not Mountain Strike. (14/20)^5=0.16807, subtract that from 1 you get 0.83193 which translates to an 83% chance of getting a Mountain Strike in your first hand.

Without CC's, Poison Drake has a 15 card deck with 3 Poisons in it. There are 12 cards that are not Poison. (12/15)^5=0.32768, subtract that from 1 you get 0.67232 which trainslates to a 67% chance of getting a Poison in your first hand.

I hope this helps yall calculate odds, as you can see it looks more difficult than it really is and only takes about a minute to do.




Hiduke -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:08:05)

@Death and Jop
I see.
But if this is labyrinth then their must be an entrance what is the 1st thing out eyes fall on when we look at the picture .the key to entering was solve the puzzle. Puzzles have secret rights. Death I think you might be correct on your basic comment they all say 7 why did he choose that number. It possible to recreate the same scenario? nvm I think even if we recreated it what would we learn from doing all that.

I think I got it we don't have to re-create it just play it off in you mind you guys said he predicted cards right so what if he predicted the enemies cards charge energy when the enemy attacks, heals and attack next turn, water tick has fresh start and that helps supply renew.
He had ice cards if he used ice cards that mean the last element he must have charged would have been ice since it would make sense that using CC ice to set up shileds ice was either 1st element or the last one so he could protect and damage. I feel like I solve it but just like you death this is just theory.

@above all I understood from that their is chance that he used CC to make 20 cards in total in his deck. 20 is simpler to deal with then 15 so he must have used 20 for something. hey how many cards those water tick have.




BJEBLE -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:10:38)

@Finnish Taurus has 2 Mountain Strikes, not one.
EDIT: @above Water Tick has 16 cards.6 of which are 200 damage, so it's very difficult to train.




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:12:11)

Stone Assassin can beat Taurus with the correct CC, reason why I'm sure I can manage to get to semifinals-finals, unless I get really "tough" foes that spam petrifies every time I wake up :c




Lunar Crush -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:13:01)

btw guys, ive had some glitches in pve where the enemy has negative health, and they don't die. this may be one way to get a big negative health bar




Hiduke -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:14:34)

FOUND HIM he wasn't using rat thought he was using SKexis right now I keep looking for rat but he was a Skexis.
I send him duel he accepted.
Darn it my froze.
Relogging

@re-found him he is now using a Max storm?i am sleepywolf-1
darn nit it keep freezing




BJEBLE -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:15:28)

@Death Stone Assassin was my first Earth character that I got to level 10. A bit too defensive for my tastes though.Have fun dueling with it![8D]




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:17:55)

@Bjeble: You should see her with the CC I use, she is a beast and really fast. She also does around x1-2 the normal 5 hit combo so I may have an edge with that 500 damage and probable stun effect.
Oh, and she is lvl 20 \(OwO)/




BJEBLE -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:21:51)

@Death yeah Minotaur is my favorite. Awhile ago, I decided to evolve it to Taurus. Upon evolving it, I found that I did not like the extra shield and Stonewall,(as my strategy revolves around Mountain Strike and the occasional Earthquake.Shields are only good for Crush.) so I bought Minotaur and I restarted.




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:24:43)

@Bjeble: Wanna have some duels or are you busy?




BJEBLE -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:26:41)

@Death Sure. Nulgath server, solace-0.




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:28:24)

@Bjeble: I will be there in 10 minutes, you don't mind right? Must fix something in a hurry xD




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:28:35)

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@Finnish Taurus has 2 Mountain Strikes, not one.


I know. :) I only used Taurus for the first example with Petrifies. I used Earth Elemental with Mountain Strikes, and EE only has 1 and has a 15 card initial deck as opposed to Taurus's 17. Sorry for the confusion which I can get since I switched up the character used in the examples and they're the same element, I was trying to be thematic whatwith the upcoming Earth tournament. Good luck in it btw I look forward to facing you if I can get the opportunity.







BJEBLE -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:33:56)

@Death No I don't mind.




Hiduke -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:37:16)

@Albright not cool I just got killed by lightning player that charge zero times his energy I mean smart move but really 1st turn 700 damage plus energize then storms me to every other turn I am over here trying to charge 4 energy and he dotting me to death with attack
then I attack. Take out a lot of this life I am over here cross your finger and hope he doesn't attack me I see him shield I am like yes then takes out the rest of my life with little extra I am like not cool.
Not so cool

@below
yeah I noticed that I mention other post that I was looking for him I found him I should have mention that he was the one who just killed me.

anyways I am now just in solace-0 waiting now if you looking for him the cellar would be a good place to look I found him in sleepywolfinn when I was looking for him but the 1st time I was out killing rats in the cellar to get bigger overkill score then I had.




The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:39:12)

Hiduke did you notice that this "lightning player" was the same Labyth that got you with the Cellar Rat? :P

edit: oh cool yeah i want to kill him now :>




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:42:32)

@Bjeble: I'm there now, sorry.
EDIT: Where are you Bjeble?
IF anyone wants to duel my lvl 20 Stone Assassin, I'm in solace-0 with Hiduke.




Hiduke -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:48:13)

Hey Bjeble did you freeze?my seen froze
@below should we relog?
@below I a reloggingg




BJEBLE -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:49:18)

@Hiduke yes it did.




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 19:50:39)

I was the only one who didn't froze ;-;




Hiduke -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 20:11:46)

@Bjeble sorry I accidently logged outa t the beginning of the match....




DeathGuard -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 20:19:57)

Well, I had some fun fighting Bjeble and Stefanzo. I never though I had be able to beat a high lvl Black Dragon though with my Stone Assassin \(OwO)/




BJEBLE -> RE: =OS= Beta Release Thread 135 - READ THE FIRST POST (11/16/2013 20:20:24)

@Hiduke and @Deathguard Those were some good matches.




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