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10/12/2009 14:06:00   
moneybags
More than a Game

 

 Hmm, a small note, if it is as same as AQ, LUK would give additional blocking chance, BtH, lucky strikes and a chance to go first... No damage bonus (unless you count the Lucky Strikes d:)

As to replacing DEX with INT, I personally don't think thats a very good idea. With the low DEX, you'd already be losing out quite some BtH and blocking and against WFs post sweep monsters (at least, I think they're post sweep :S), you'd be needing as much BtH you can get.

quote:

If you follow the Stats Training, you'll have the max power of Pets and yourself(as a Lucky Tank... see above). :)


Not neccessarily, if you're a Tank BeastGunner, there'd be no way you can get full potential of END, CHA, DEX as well as LUK. (Sorry if I keep nagging you D:)



~moneybags
Epic  Post #: 76
10/12/2009 16:48:43   
Bu Kek Siansu
Member

No problem moneybags! Well, again thanks for your comments!

You always don't need to have DEX but stategies are very important in this case especially if you have 200 LUK,
and it's a Lucky Tank Beast Master / Tank BeastGuneer which mean your Pets will do they work, and you also can do
some damage and strategies to help your Pets while you are (almost all the time)safe with your high END. :p
As to replacing DEX with INT is not bad idea, though!
  • 50 - 100 INT is enough to use Twist to scramble stats of the enemy or just for healing spells.
  • If you don't like to replace DEX into INT, then it's up to you. There are the options for. :)

    < Message edited by Mysterious Strangeface -- 10/12/2009 16:51:03 >
    • Post #: 77
    10/12/2009 19:05:38   
    moneybags
    More than a Game

     

    		 Would you actually *need* 50-100 INT to use Twist itself? It only costs 70 MP. With a level 40 character and 0 INT, you can use Twist 4 times, which is quite enough for scrambling elements. As for healing spells, you can do fine with just potions. With 200 END, you'd *rarely* need healing spells. As you've said yourself, one would be pretty safe with that high END.



    ~moneybags

    Epic  Post #: 78
    10/12/2009 19:49:11   
    Bu Kek Siansu
    Member

    		http://forums2.battleon.com/f/fb.asp?m=16777972

    Stats Training

  • 3.B. As a Lucky Tank BeastMaster / Lucky Tank BeastGunner(who uses a lot of LUK, CHA and END):
    Lvl 130 -> 50 DEX, 200 CHA/END/LUK OR 75 DEX, 200 CHA/LUK, 175 END OR 100 DEX, 200 CHA/LUK, 150 END
    quote:

    Note: You can replace DEX into INT, examples:
    Lvl 130 -> 50 INT, 200 CHA/END/LUK OR 75 INT, 200 CHA/LUK, 175 END OR 100 INT, 200 CHA/LUK, 150 END

    quote:

  • 50 - 100 INT is enough to use Twist to scramble stats of the enemy or just for healing spells.

    • It's just an option(example). In this case I'd prefer to have 50-100 DEX instead of 50-100 INT.

    < Message edited by Mysterious Strangeface -- 10/12/2009 20:33:26 >
    • Post #: 79
    10/12/2009 22:59:14   
    nosey123
    Friendly!


    		 Oops, should have been more specific. XD

    I actually want to use both melee and ranged weapons, so i will...be using the exact same training guide you provided. XD
    AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 80
    10/13/2009 5:44:55   
    Bu Kek Siansu
    Member

    		nosey123: Please take a look at this Stats Training for StrikeGunner, I think that's what you are looking for.
  • 1.B. As a StrikeGunner(who uses both Sticks/Melee Weapons and Guns/Ranged Weapons):
    Lvl 130 -> 200 STR/DEX/LUK, 50 END OR 200 STR/DEX, 100 END, 150 LUK OR 200 STR/DEX, 125 END/LUK

    ~Mysterious Strangeface
    • Post #: 81
    10/16/2009 5:35:50   
    reborn11
    Member

    		Using tech and skills that can freeze enemies is a way of making your fire attacks on ememy hit harder,that will
    give them a spicy ice cream.
    And laser rifle bolt is not really effective.............

    _____________________________

    I used to think arrow to the knee jokes were funny,before I took one myself.
    DF  Post #: 82
    10/16/2009 20:48:42   
    ABSTRT
    Member

    		Nvm, got what I was looking for.

    < Message edited by ABSTRT -- 10/16/2009 21:28:28 >
    DF MQ  Post #: 83
    10/17/2009 23:53:48   
    vr11
    Member

    		Would
    STR:50
    DEX:0
    INT:0
    END:50
    CHA:0
    LUK:50
    be a good build for a striker?
    AQ DF MQ  Post #: 84
    10/18/2009 0:33:26   
    moneybags
    More than a Game

     

    		 Less END and more STR+DEX, possibly less LUK if you don't have enough stat points for STR. At level 45, I'd have a Striker looking like this:

    90 STR
    90 DEX
    0 INT
    15 / 20 END
    0 CHA
    15 / 20 LUK

    <<Match the colors ;)) >>



    ~moneybags
    Epic  Post #: 85
    10/18/2009 0:41:30   
    vezha
    Still Alive~


    		 Okay, I'm currently running on 50 STR/INT, 30 DEX, 20 END. I'm thinking of dropping END and DEX by 10 each and jacking up my offensive stats to Power Hybrid-ish level. Any advice? And is there anything important I've missed? Character Page

    < Message edited by vezha -- 10/18/2009 0:44:36 >
    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 86
    10/18/2009 0:54:58   
    moneybags
    More than a Game

     

    		 vezha,

    Its looking pretty good. One thing I disagree with, however, is the drop of DEX. You'll need a decent amount of DEX (I doubt 20 will do any good, and with the low BtH weapons armors, you'll need as much as you can get). What good is the extra offense if you can barely hit? The drop of END would be fine however, I can survive level 40 with 15 END with no major problem.

    In my opinion, a Power Hybrid build is good, but at such early levels with barely any stat points to train, it may be a challenge to make use of the little stat points to put into those offensive stats with a decent amount of DEX with a bit of END. Just my opinion ;)



    ~moneybags
    Epic  Post #: 87
    10/18/2009 1:06:04   
    vezha
    Still Alive~


    		 Eh, the STR/INT increase will give me the same amount of BtH as the DEX drop loses me. I'm gonna go with it. Now I just need to see if I'm missing anything...
    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 88
    10/18/2009 11:38:57   
    moneybags
    More than a Game

     

    		 Meh, just my opinion...

    Your character seems fine. For weapons, just choose the melee ones over the guns, and keep upgrading them closest to your level. There isn't a huge selection of Miscs, Gauntlets, Pets or Spells, just use common sense and buy the ones you feel you need.



    ~moneybags
    Epic  Post #: 89
    10/18/2009 19:20:02   
    Darius
    Member

    		With the release of untraining (woohoo! Roznort FTW!), I've changed my build to Engineer.

    Projected Lv.45 stats, currently Lv.36:
    STR=0
    DEX=75
    INT=80
    END=20
    CHA=0
    LUK=50
    Character page in sig.

    < Message edited by Darius -- 10/19/2009 10:39:08 >
    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 90
    10/18/2009 22:10:35   
    San
    Member

    		By level 45, my Striker stats are going to be:

    STR: 200
    DEX:0
    INT: 0
    END: 25
    CHA: 0
    LUK: 0

    Not enough interesting pets yet for me to want to raise up charisma. Luck isn't that useful until It's over 80, also.
    Strength already gives me bth, so there's no need for DEX until I max Strength.
    I might change 25 END to 25 DEX, but I'm not too certain right now.
    AQ  Post #: 91
    10/18/2009 23:39:02   
    nosey123
    Friendly!


    		 Polar beam sword and gathorax's special are fixed. :D (thanks westwind)

    No more special doing 15 per hit for the lvl 40 gathorax.

    Also, lvl 40 warp star ninja ftw.

    < Message edited by nosey123 -- 10/18/2009 23:41:51 >
    AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 92
    10/19/2009 4:28:15   
    Bu Kek Siansu
    Member

    		My Stats Training has been updated!

    ~Mysterious Strangeface
    Post #: 93
    10/22/2009 15:05:20   
    kratos12
    Member

    		These are my stats

    STR = 25
    DEX =20
    INT = 25
    END = 15
    LUCK = 0
    CHA = 0

    are they any good? By lv 30 I want to have

    STR = 45
    DEX = 30
    INT = 45
    END = 30
    LUCK = 0
    CHA = 0


    AQ DF MQ  Post #: 94
    10/22/2009 18:25:11   
    moneybags
    More than a Game

     

    		 Looks like a classic hybrid :P

    I'd suggest less END; I survived level 40 with 15. You can spread those 15 points on STR, INT or DEX, depending on your fighting style. If you spam weapons, put them into DEX and STR; if you like using Techs, put those points on INT, and possibly DEX.



    ~moneybags
    Epic  Post #: 95
    10/22/2009 19:01:00   
    Chesterzard
    Member

    		how do i use this i posted a message and still didnt get a reply it was about 3 months ago and still no reply plz tell me were i should put a message for my stats and equpiment and were to get it
    Post #: 96
    10/22/2009 19:09:25   
    Rhowena
    Legendary AK!!!


    		 This is the right place. Where did you post before?
    AQ DF  Post #: 97
    10/22/2009 21:31:08   
    Myst Warrior
    Member

    		for my warpguardian at level 24 i have


    Str= 40
    dex=40
    end=20
    int=20


    by level 40 i will have

    str=65
    dex=65
    end=30
    int=30

    pretty much my strength and dex will be my main
    stats while my endurance and intellect will be secondary.
    AQ MQ AQW  Post #: 98
    10/22/2009 21:33:44   
    ABSTRT
    Member

    		Char

    What do you guys think? It's gonna be a pure striker, pretty straightforward, but what do you think so far?
    DF MQ  Post #: 99
    10/22/2009 21:43:53   
    Bu Kek Siansu
    Member

    		You can find Stats Training for Pure Striker here
    Post #: 100
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