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5/5/2013 12:10:01   
ansh0
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^Do a few PvP battles, record them, and show me the bot being useful.
Epic  Post #: 26
5/5/2013 12:15:19   
  Exploding Penguin
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 In PvP, the bot is useless. In 2v1 bosses, against NPCs, and in jugg it can actually be pretty useful. Nonetheless, I'd still like to see some application of the bot in normal PvP.
Epic  Post #: 27
5/6/2013 10:37:56   
theholyfighter
Member

quote:

The point I was making is that you are making the opponent play out of their comfort zone to avoid attacking themselves. That is still very tactical and useful. Just because this bot takes some brains to use doesn't mean it is underpowered and useless.

Um...that's not the issue. It doesn't have anything to do with using your brain on the robot. It's simple logic actually.

Color Blast activates when your opponent strikes. Yea, you use ur brain and wait until your opponent used up his/her/its energy, when his/her/its sidearm/aux/robot is in cooldown, and when his/her/its active Cores are used. Then, you use it, letting him/her/it ending up with Strike as the only option. However, guess what? The person can simply skip turns until sidearm/auxiliary/robot comes back from cooldown. No matter when you plan it your opponent can always skip turns to avoid hitting oneself.
AQW Epic  Post #: 28
5/6/2013 10:54:23   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @holyfighter Would you not agree that would be a free turn, I.E. a stun? If you use the bot right, you force your enemy to use a skill or ranged weapon early to disrupt their strategy or even get yourself a free turn.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 29
5/6/2013 10:59:58   
ansh0
Member

^Even that never happens.

People have too many options over strike.

By the time you use the special, the opponent can easily use his gun or aux. He doesn't even need to skip his turn.
If this not wasn't useless, how come no one uses the special?
Epic  Post #: 30
5/6/2013 11:20:25   
Silver Sky Magician
Member


 ^

One way my opponent used the bot on me was when I debuffed him and my primary weapon was my only energy attack (besides the IA special, but I was saving that up), so the malf essentially became meaningless. It saved him a lot of health. Though he lost anyway.
Post #: 31
5/6/2013 11:56:53   
ansh0
Member

Still useless.
Epic  Post #: 32
5/6/2013 12:27:18   
8x
Member

quote:

^Do a few PvP battles, record them, and show me the bot being useful.

I don't have enough credits to buy it and I don't feel like spending varium. But I will give you an example how someone used it against me. I am using physical sword and energy gun, aux and assault bot E and I'm a bh with high strength and smoke. After I smoked and used chairman's fury my opponent used Color Blast. I was left with only energy attacks and I lost. The battle would have ended after 2 of my strikes if he hadn't used Color Blast.
Epic  Post #: 33
5/6/2013 12:49:03   
ansh0
Member

Still not doing what it's supposed to do.

The fact that you did not strike proves that the special is useless and easily avoidable.
Epic  Post #: 34
5/6/2013 13:18:07   
8x
Member

One thing that I just noticed is that you keep saying that it's useless, but you are not saying that it is unbalanced or under powered. So if you are not happy with the bot you have another option: Sell it.
Epic  Post #: 35
5/6/2013 13:28:00   
Mother1
Member

I have to agree with 8x here. You are involving balance when you post this here, and so far you have not mentioned once how this bot is unbalanced. Especially since all robots got a nerf to bring them down to the power of other items since the focus nerf.
Epic  Post #: 36
5/6/2013 14:28:17   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!
quote:

Still not doing what it's supposed to do.

The fact that you did not strike proves that the special is useless and easily avoidable.

So even if it got you a 100% ratio, it would still be useless because the other guys didn't ever strike with the special active?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 37
5/6/2013 16:03:21   
Sageofpeace
Member

bio borg and this bot are both useless
Post #: 38
5/6/2013 18:16:51   
Xendran
Member

quote:

So even if it got you a 100% ratio, it would still be useless because the other guys didn't ever strike with the special active?


Arguing within the realm of extremes is not going to prove any valid point.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 39
5/7/2013 7:36:39   
Silver Sky Magician
Member


 You're missing the entire point here. The point of this bot is not to make the opponent damage himself. The point of this bot is to prevent the opponent from striking for three turns. In what situations might this be useful? As I pointed out, when the opponent has used debuffs, when the opponent's other moves would do significantly less damage, when you have a considerably higher chance of deflecting the opponent's moves than blocking them, and so forth. It is a highly specialised, but definitely not useless or underpowered skill.
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