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Renn100 -> =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 10:25:42)

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All Juggernaut threads have been merged into this official thread. Discuss all the pros and cons of Juggernaut Mode here. Such as:

Is it unfair to the Juggernaut and why?

Is it unfair to the Team and why?

Is it great the way it is?

Is it fun, is it not, do you love it, do you not, etc.

Anything Juggernaut related can be discussed here in a respectful and constructive way. Have fun!

~LANDIS


Guys this day at may 27 i saw a new mode in ED jugg 25-30 lvl vs 1 33 lvl! seriously this stinks!At first im a non-varium merc +I got lost by n00bs becaus crits now lets handle 2x30 vs 33!?seruously! see my char im not so good at all http://www.epicduel.com/charpage.asp?id=renn6 I have 240 wins and i have now 75 losses....yesterday i had only 60 losses!! 15 losses seriously!?[:@] make it back devs![:@] Im so not going to play anymore seriously variums overpowered and now this... Atleast make it back at 23-28 they have anyways 31+ weps because - ....Comment this guys




veneeria -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 10:28:12)

blame the players which said it was so easy then. [&:] They might have a good reason for why it is like that.




The Shadow Dragon -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 10:28:54)

Youre not forced to play juggernaut, just play 1 on 1.




veneeria -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 10:34:15)

@The Shadow Dragon: actuality if he payed for the juggernaut card .. yeah.. he is kinda "forced" ..he lost Credits/varium buying it... [&:]




Angels Holocaust -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 10:44:17)

That's epicduel for you, things only get worse. They never get better for some strange reason.




Thylek Shran -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 12:08:51)

I dont have bought Silver Skull card because Juggernaut has been made for varium characters.




Polandor -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 12:50:09)

Juggernaut if for very strong high level.

Witch mean lv 33 full varium (with boosters) and a good build made for 2vs1, and also know how to get the most of this build.

Of course a non varium, will always be in BIG trouble vs varium, no matter the battle mode chosen, and even more true with the 2v1 mode, because it suppose to be challenging, for a lv 33 elite varium players.




ajs777 -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 12:54:20)

This is how i like it, its boring to have it at easy
now they need to boost the rewards for the teams




Cinderella -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 12:57:03)

Balance is, unfortunately, dynamic. The majority of complaints about the Juggernaut battle mode were from the Underdogs' point of view, and we didn't want it to become a "free wins" situation. It's SUPPOSED to be a challenge.




fhiz -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 13:18:05)

i have faced 12 juggernauts and lost 3 times, once because my partner was just bad, and i got stuck against badwitch the other 2 times.




Bunshichi -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 14:28:04)

Its not challenging when you get bunkered about 3 times in the match with crits. Then atom smash misses against the guy with low dex.




The UnleaShedWolfZ -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 16:23:30)

AT LEAST MAKE THE WEPS SAME AS LVL , I MEAN NOT LVL 28-33 LIKE THIS :S !!!!!!!!

ONE LVL 29 WAS VS ME WITH EGG ZOOKA AND AZRAEL'S BANE FTW !? PLZ RE fix it..

BTW founders r back with lvl 28/29/30.

BTW !!! I ate 2 massacres in a row with energy removing and smoke screens..




goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 20:14:30)

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Balance is, unfortunately, dynamic. The majority of complaints about the Juggernaut battle mode were from the Underdogs' point of view, and we didn't want it to become a "free wins" situation. It's SUPPOSED to be a challenge.

its suppose to be a challenge for both.
the HUGE difference higher lvls had over the low lvl is the game experience. i bet if u get a random low lvl, he cant make a build 1/100 that a lvl 33 experienced player could.
if ED perhaps made a tutorial of how to play when they first join then it would help them alot.
and a boot camp later on.
the problem isn't that we are too OP, its that they aren't good enough.
2 lvl 25s out stat a full geared lvl 33 when the lvl 25s dont have any items.
a lvl 25 can have 53-74 stats as a non varium. with credit only items.
with the average mage and merc getting caden's wrath and mjolnir they out stat and out skill a non varium. if they cant use teamwork and play smart whose fault is it? certainly not hours.
idk if u guys know how deadly poison/mass BH with 120 hp can be at those lvls.
basically max poison, lvl 1 mass. 120 hp. and the rest on str.
combine it with a malf caster or a bunker merc, and the juggernaut will fall.




King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 21:35:50)

I went about 61 or I think 62 juggernaut matches and I only lost 6 times because of varium mercs appeared and 1 disconnection. Your best bet as a non varium is to have max enhancements and the maximum amount of hp before agility will give you the penalties for defense and resistance provided you know how to make a good build plus the credits.




Wraith -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 22:12:40)

The point is, it is much harder.

I just owned a level 29 Varium merc (Azrael Bane Eggzooka Stun Blaster George Lowe armor and Gamma Bot) and his level 27 TM partner.




LunarWarlord -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 22:20:49)

if you complain about not winning, then get a good build, or dont play it? simple.




Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 22:37:09)

@above
like the lower lvs did? oh wait they ddnt they complained -.-




LunarWarlord -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 22:59:04)

^ haha yeah. And the player wanted a 2vs1 battle mode, so the staff did as they were ask. so do not blame them for adding a stupid feature.

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IsaiahtheMage -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 23:43:32)

Ok so you make this angry thread becuase you got 15 loses? Seriously?




LunarWarlord -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 23:46:12)

^ haha ikr xD

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goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/27/2011 23:47:07)

15 losses. but how many wins?




Renn100 -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/28/2011 1:34:09)

Yup 15 losses and like 5 wins in past i won like 20 and 5 losses:S so see the big change my reason for playing jugg is to become commander in this game cuz takes alot me and now i had more then25% +my losses(all) is 80 now because always crit bunker.I tried a +5 focus bunker build but never crited!thats normal?[&:] just i mean change bac that stupid level range now for n00b+25 lvls could easily pwn a normal 30 lvl because over +50 enchantements without to enchante it so.




Synbad Syndicated -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/28/2011 1:40:20)

hold old are these complainers that's whining about jugger mode. seriously how old are they.




goldslayer1 -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/28/2011 1:40:23)

@renn
a lvl 25 can have +50 total stats without enhancing.
5-15 is just horrible.




5rr5 -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (5/28/2011 5:42:18)

I know it's very hard to be the Juggernaut when fighting 2 variums.




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