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MrBones -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/8/2011 12:42:38)

The big problem i have with jugger mode is that it throws people that didn't want to get in a jugger fight. They drop them unprepared and they end up fighting among themselves, calling each other stupid, noob, instead of trying to beat the jugger.

Pathetic display really.

I don't do jugger fights anymore



Larcell -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/9/2011 20:27:57)

I was expecting 2v1 Boss Battles. Oh well. Lol, and I'm not buying any Gold cards either.



helloguy -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/9/2011 21:15:38)

it was fun the first 2 weeks,but now it's just died out.



xxmirxx -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/9/2011 21:39:11)

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Juggernaut is terrible. We wanted 2vs1 boss battles; not more rubbish.


I just want 2vs1 npc so yes I agree with you.



AQWPlayer -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/9/2011 21:39:20)

they should make a separate button for 2vs2, make juggernaut mode free, and give people who payed for the cards a full refund.



PumKing -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 10:15:01)

in jugger battles, the main problems i am coming up agains are double merc teams who then spam bunker and artillary strike, even at lvl 25 against a lvl 33(me) it is a deadly combo, I am too affraid to try it much more because i know that there are much higher lvl merc teams that would kill me much sooner. jugger is not a contest of skillz, it is a contest of luck to see if you don't have to face a team of mercs or luck out and get either one merc or none to then see if you can truely test your skills



King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:04:28)

What is this level cap? Level 25-30???!!! It's too hard to vs one varium and non varium or worse....two variums in a juggernautbattle which is almost impossible for one person to take down the 2 of them. I understand people will say that juggernaut matches were meant to be challenging but that doesnt mean placing 2 varium people either a merc or hunter will be there to easily kill you in 3 turns. Juggernaut should be level 25-28, the majority of mercs there are full of bunker busting nooblets who spam and 1 varium person in 5 LONG matches I've faced and I only won 1 battle out of 6 because those 5 matches contained 1 varium user(there was also 2 variums) WHICH IS WHY!!!!! Players fighting a juggernaut should be lvl 25-28 or we'll all be fighting players in juggernaut matches like this one.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2a5m92d.jpg



An EMP/high str/medium support bounty hunter(worth 67 support) and a high support mercenary. And yes, within 2 turns, thats how much hp I had left(after healing cuz the hunter crits gamma bot at me)



Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:06:04)

ikr
wld do they do? no
shd they? heck yes
@below
im a lv 33 full varium with a great build
u get 2 lv 29s or 30s who are full varium and have almost as many stat points as u by themselves, it doesnt take a genius to find out who wins here



Thylek Shran -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:07:17)

There are already alot threads about this. Juggernaut has been made for full varium.



King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:13:04)

@thylek: Then that's unfair. Wanna know whats 20x worse than the picture I showed, 2 varium mercs. They pummelled me down in 2 turns. Thanks a lot to the foolish people for saying juggernaut is too easy and now I get 2 varium mercs level 30 with stun guns.



Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:15:04)

@above
ive gotten 2 varium mercs lv 30, maxed enhancements, eggzookas, stun guns, one had azrael bane, and both incredible builds -.-



PenyihiR -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:23:50)

^
And u Die Fast [:D]



edwardvulture -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:24:41)

Well theres always unwinnable battles except the devs let that happen.



*Nova* -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:25:59)

Well, that is what happens when the Silver Card costs 20k credit.
Most Non-Varium aren't willing to pay for it, only to get a Battle Mode that they will always lose in.



PenyihiR -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:29:28)

As Long u know..,
For lvl 30..,
Meet Juggernaut just like free wins for them.,

I've been tricked buy that SilverSkullcard (when The lvl +.,+..and + to 30)
Exactly.,
Waste 20k credits -_-'



King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:31:00)

Varium juggernauts have the same problem as well. Combine a 5 focus bh and a high support merc against a juggernaut support merc, guess what happens. 5 focus hunter simply uses EMp. Juggernaut Support merc turns to easy prey.



Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:37:29)

my idea of a challenge: 2 lv 28s or 27s with decent weps and build
and heres the ppls who complained and got the level raised ideas of a challenge: 2 lv 30s full varium builds that are on par with jugg in a 1v1 (x2)



edwardvulture -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:37:45)

Well unless you have my build for merc nonvarium. I still get a lil above 50%



PenyihiR -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:43:28)

For This Time..,
Juggernaut For non Varium just like 30% of winning (70% of getting Pwned)



Hun Kingq -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:46:26)

Players complained the Juggernaut was not challenging enough as well as people bragging about easy wins so they did as people wanted and now people complaining it is too hard too win.

I brought the gold card and one 1 Juggernaut battle against two bounties while smoked and robot attacks I took out the stronger one first the one with the robot then the weaker one. So right now I am at 100% win rate.

Well, when I read all the complaints how it is not a challenge, I knew this was going to happen, which the problem with the new players they are given advice on bad builds and that is why they were getting demolished in the Juggernaut battle. I have a level 24 tech mage as well as a level 33 and with the level 24, without armor, I beat a level 28 varium support merc, which used a gamma bot most of the time.

So when you complain be careful what you complain about and what you want because that is what you will get, example, players wanted stat progression so guess what we got it and look how the stats got screwed up.

FrostLich, I did not say you complained, I wrote players complained. I myself say the Juggernaut mode was just fine as it was it did not need to change only the lower levels needed better advice on good builds, weapons and how to battle.



King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:48:31)

I didn't complain Hun King. The variums only did by saying it was too easy while for me it was sort of challenging even if it was lvl 23-28(a long time ago) I often faced off with 2 support mercs that were non varium which seemed challenging enough to me.



Deimos... -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:55:46)

I think that it's good now. It's like going into a normal 2v2 against low leveled varium people ( low as in 25-30) without ur partner. I've only done 1 jugg since this happened so I'm not sure if it's to ez or too hard. I'll give you my feedback Again after I go for jugg champion in the future.



xxmirxx -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/10/2011 23:59:17)

I think fair it was your choice doing 2vs1. Why don't you just buy varium and then you will have better chance of winning.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/11/2011 0:02:23)

yeah i feel that jug mode is a 1 way trip to loser zone for non varium players. reason being 2 lvl 30 full varium are just too hard to beat. i suggest the make the range bigger. 23-30 will be better and a bigger rnge will also make jug mode fasters.



Deimos... -> RE: =ED= Juggernaut Discussion Thread (6/11/2011 0:05:23)

Read my suggestion to improve juggernaut in this link.
http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=18986034&mpage=2&key=�



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