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ND Mallet -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 8:06:35)

@gold A loss for your faction affects nothing besides the fact that your faction ratio will go down on the leaderboards. If you disconnect in a battle though your faction will lose influence from it and that's the only way a loss affects your faction negatively



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 8:35:14)

@nd mallet
having to fight someone in ur faction is also a waste of time for one of u as ur only getting 1 win from 2 players.
and yes the ratio is also a problem.
u know how many times i was running on 100% streaks only to loose it to my faction mates?
not saying i care about it. but i would apreciate not having to fight my faction mates when we have goals like 1 vs 1 medals



Callisto -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 8:55:11)

@luna my thread still does exist...you can find it if you go on my page and look at my last posts.
On topic:I totally agree,I made a topic about it too with few more ideas but of course nothing happened and probably nothing will...I doubt devs will even look at this topic,not to mention actually do something about it.



nico0las -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 3:35:48)

I'm not going to agree full-heartedly, but to some extent, it is true. I tried to take 2v2 daily champ. but for 12 straight battles, my partners were 29-28. not even a freakin' 30. It frustrated me. I love the mode, but this is why I enjoy juggernaut: it's just you. The enemy leaves? great! free win! if not, kill them, win anyways. 2v2 is, as someone stated earlier, a death-trap. How the all times made 20k wins, who knows. must have been quite a lot of work.
We need a smaller lvl range. I love the mode, but I just can't do it. I actually turned around and ripped apart a stack of some 25 pages out of anger after the 16th loss in a row.
A smaller level range, and of course, the varium-non varium separation. Sorry, but except for a VERY select few, varium is a whole new league, with the varium noobs champions among the....non variums. Don't get mad at me for that, we're all thinking it.
So, again, varium-non varium separation, smaller lvl range, and inviting partners. Either that, or we deal with it and all go Focus build on 2v2. I like option B just as much as A, but y'know.



Minus123 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 5:55:44)

2 vs 2 isnt as fun as it used to be. Even if on the opposing side, they have a lvl 28, it's come to the point I dont look forward to winning but feel like I've cheated somehow, even more so after the person tells me it was their 10th loss in a row. The only fun 2 vs 2's I have these days are when I see friends or faction members in the match, but even then, sometimes their partners leave and theres another bitter victory.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 6:48:26)

GR8 just gr8 i been losing again and again in 2v2 i cant even get a decent 2v2. if the devs do not fix 2v2 anytime sooner every1 will stop playing 2v2.

1) Is this a sigh that the devs do not care bout 2v2?
2) Are the devs trying to ignore the ed community which does 2v2?
3) Are they driving away all 2v2er because they are destroying the battle mode?
4) Is the lag driving U crazy and does it affect u in anyway?

well basically the lag drive me nuts make me dun wanna play 2v2 at all because it spoils all the fun in 2v2ing. each battle take sooooo long to finish and basically every1 in 2v2 are complaining about the lags and it is obvious that 2v2 is the only 1 lagging while i is not so laggy in 1v1. basically IMHO the devs threw all the lags in 1v1 into 2v2 because the devs really hate 2v2 and will never fix 2v2. 2v2 mode has been broken since beta and yet the devs are ignoring 2v2 yet again. wonder if the lags are the result of them testing something new in 2v2 but still the lags are very very bad right now i dun even want to play 2v2.



MirageD -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 7:14:35)

i agree luna....the lag in 2v2 has become ridiculous and is most likely the cause of all the partner disconnects :( i totally agree that the level difference needs to be lowered to 3



Drakadh -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 7:25:15)

@MirageD I had the same Idea of making it a Lvl Difference of 3, and not 6 =,=" (BTW I am Noxan)

It would be fun for me if I can use my lvl 28 Alt Acc with out fighting Lvl 33 Tesla Tank guys =,="



Callisto -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 7:25:30)

Meanwhile have you seen 2vs2 ratios today?Nobody has over 59%(for factions) and 66%(for player) it's crazy...never been this low before.

And still...devs won't listen when we say 2vs2 needs to be fixed!



Drakadh -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 7:32:42)

They should get 5 f2p and 5 Varium Players and discuss this mayhem, that way everyone is happy.

EDIT: Grammar Check xD



Sakilino -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 7:38:37)

Lag in 2v2 is getting ridiculous after every update. Today it is the worst day ever. It is almost impossible to play 2v2. In every fight someone loose connection, people skip turns, 1 fight takes from 15=20 minutes. I was just in fight where 3 of us just stand there like morons for 3 turns, non of us could attack even if we all clicked and non of us was AFK. This is ridiculous! Dev you really need to fix this!

And look at number of wins on daily boards for 2v2.! Silly! Took me 3 hours to have 8 wins, and if you got 28 you are on board. I do not know if I should laugh or cry over this.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 13:14:39)

I think I like the randomness and unpredictableness of 2v2. It makes each battle different and Unik and you find yourself having to convince your partener to listen to you and work around what he/she does. However, I think since these battles tend to take longer, there needs to be more rewards from it.



Callisto -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 13:20:49)

@Sunguardian no offence but you are only lvl 17.2vs2 is easy at low levels but when you get to lvl 27...then you will understand what we're talking about.



DeathSpawn -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 13:24:14)

Ok wasn't gonna post but seeing how if someone has a different thought about anything than you Callisto you bash them every single time.

I agree with you 100% Sun Guardian. 2v2 is everything it was meant to be and shouldn't change a bit. The only thing that should be changed is the features that affect every game mode ie. Lag and Disconnects.

2v2 is alot of fun it's unpredictable and VERY challenging at times. If you can't get past it or don't have interest, then play another mode.

quote:

when you get to lvl 27...then you will understand what we're talking about.


Oh BTW I'm level 33 with the highest 2v2 ratio in the game. Guess I'm lost and don't know what your talking about either then.



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 13:25:10)

I agree. On top of that the lag is insane in 2 vs 2 I just disconnected.



nico0las -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 13:26:18)

@callisto 2v2 is seriously only an issue at 30-33. 28's can face lower lvls, and hence their life is easier. At 17, 2v2 is cake.
The problems are:
lvl difference
varium-non varium
lack of gear
lag stems from the players being in different parts of the world. So if you have a 1v1 between a kid in egypt, and a brazilian kid, lag would kill. But if two kids from Toronto played a 1v1, it wouldn't be so bad. i know this from experience.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 13:36:50)

@Callisto

That is my newest character. I have had many characters in my past, here are some links to their remains:

Spaceman Dan

Shadow and Light

Whenever I decide to leave a character I change it to tech mage and sell all my items so I do not get tempted to go back. Unfortunately, my favorite one was scammed he was called sunguardian but I can not find name on character pages so I can only assume the name was changed (the account had enough varium on it for at least one name change).

When I played at level 33 I still liked two vs two except for the rewards.



Callisto -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 13:50:56)

@DeathSpawn you disagree with everybody who wants something changed so honestly...your opinion means nothing to me.I've seen your posts and it's clear you don't want change,but there are MANY more who do.If luna,miraged,morrigan,new hope,even angels holocaust and many more 2vs2 champs say 2vs2 is unbalanced and needs fixing then it's actually you bashing our wishes.
At least I know what respect means.

@nicolas you do have a good point and I agree with you but does that mean when I get to that lvl I have to quit 2vs2?If that is so then something is wrong.We all know something is wrong except DeathSpawn.

And @Sunguardian I do love 2vs2 that's exactly why I'm fighting for it,I want to see it get better and I want to stop getting lvl 28 as a partner against two lvl 33.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 14:04:25)

@Calisto
From your opinions expressed in this thread I would make the assumption that you want to have the dominance that can be obtained through 1v1, but you want it in 2v2. In otherwords, it is to hard to win most of your games in 2v2 since the battle does not get won by you alone and you have to rely on your partener. This would be nice to happen, however I like the inability to win 50 games in an hour with barely any losses, that should be reserved for 1v1 alone.



DeathGuard -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 14:07:30)

Their is a bug that stops the fight, it frozens the turns, you can talk and all the stuff but you must log out because even if your foes left, you don't get the reward. I got many of these at the midniight [:@]



edwardvulture -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 14:08:23)

Sometimes there are just plain varium vs. nonvarium. Other times my partners disconnect. Sometimes I disconnect. There's something wrong with the system and 2 on 2.



Sipping Cider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 14:10:26)

Disconnects and skipped turns are annoying and those are things I would like to see go, but the randomness of the teams I like to stay.



Joe10112 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 14:39:54)

I feel that you should be able to link with someone (allies) and fight in 2v2 as a friend.

Also, the compensation for going second is HORRIBLE. Countless times my team goes second, and i go last out of all four, and i get killed before I can do anything. And 2v2 is supposed to be the best way. Only way I can win is if I have a level 33 varium with me, or if I'm the highest level person...



ansh0 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 14:40:43)

I agree 2 v 2 is broken and lowering the level range is a GREAT idea. I quit doing 2 v 2 and a started doing juggernaut(I'm lvl 32 non var bounty hunter). Guys if you're fed up of 2v2, just do yourselves a favor, and get the silver skull card from slayer and make your lifes easier. Juggernaut is amazing. No leaving partners. No incredibly OP opponents . And the rewards are also fair.r
And it takes less time. And 2v2 link is a bad idea, just utter crap. Cuz people are again gonna dummy the daylights out of it.




~black spidey



PivotalDisorder -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (8/6/2011 15:00:11)

maybe some adjustments could be made to the matchmaking.

if its 2 33s, then the other team should have a 33 and no lower than a 30. having a 5 level gap between players is fine
but not between teams overall. if they also implemented a weight system [based on your equipment/enhancements]
I'm pretty confident the queue would become painful though, so separating non-variums and variums seems unlikely.

2v2 linking is a great feature but needs to be kept separate from 2v2. instead have 2 teams challenge each other just
a combination of the 1v1 challenge system and the 2v1 npc battle system. then factions could hold tournaments etc.
the best teams could go looking for other teams to face, might encourage people to communicate with each other too.



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