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crabpeople -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 13:16:08)

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and the class will focus on momentum and snowballing if I can get the mechanics working and balanced properly.

Meow? miau prrr hiss hisss meow!

Translation: Interesting :P

Mmm... Piercing attack locked skills are expected for Ranger. We'll see if a temporal stat change will be needed or not.



Shadows Morgenstern -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 13:58:06)

Oh sounds cool Verly! Can't wait!



Alm Nullamors -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 14:01:39)

One thing I did like is the skill that seeks out and hits a target's weakness. I liked to imagine it using the Health element against PVP players with - Health resist (Does it?).



Aura Knight -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 14:09:04)

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less of a long range sniper, and more of a kickbutt Lord of The Rings type ranger.


my want for this class revamp has just skyrocketed yet again. ranger's already fun to use and I have no doubts the updated version will be anything short of amazing.

I'm already excited about the art of the class. The skills will probably be epic too I just hope the animations for the 2 hit final was kept as well as the skill flashbang. Oh and weakness seeking was nice. Also, the birdie skill. [:D]



Alm Nullamors -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 14:17:06)

Yes, DragonSlayer only has that against dragons iirc so it would be nice to have a class able to do that against anything.



Chaoshaper -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 14:25:39)

Haven't played Ranger in forever, might dust it off to celebrate its rework :D



pumloo -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 15:41:37)

Ranger is my favorite class :c I'm so sad it's taking so long to revamp... But you know what they say - "Save the best for last."



crabpeople -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 15:46:16)

Above: Exactly. If it's taking that long is probably because they're putting lots of thought at the numbers/effects to make it unique in it's own way. The animations... Who knows? If it has that's an extra.



pumloo -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 22:26:11)

Well... If Verly is working on the concept... It's gon' be OP. Can't wait :D



flashbang -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 23:35:39)

I heard someone say flashbang.

And yes, my name is basee off of the skill name.



DarkLore -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/13/2015 23:39:30)

Hey Vely. How will mage's be able to use it then if its a mix of melee and range?[:(] Yes. I am a mage.[:@]



The ErosionSeeker -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/14/2015 0:57:43)

If snowballing advantage works the same way it does for Ascendant, this is going to be absolutely great.



Sakurai the Cursed -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/14/2015 2:52:41)

@DarkLore - That's why I use Luk as my damage stat instead of Int; I can use whatever weapons or damage types I want. ;P



Verlyrus -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (7/14/2015 12:44:46)

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How will mage's be able to use it then if its a mix of melee and range?


I'm still looking at that. There are a couple of options, but still a lot of decisions that have to be finalized. Sorry I can't be more clear about that.



Subon -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 18:19:11)

Do you think you're getting a clearer picture of when the revamp might be possibly released?

And by clearer picture I mean if you at least know what year, lol.



Aura Knight -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 18:22:20)

Whenever I notice another post on this thread I get excited but when I realized it's not to announce that the revamp is live, I'm disappointed. I want this class more than any others.



Subon -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 18:47:57)

I feel ya.



flashbang -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 18:48:04)

inb4 Ranger becomes DF's Archmage.

I kid, I kid. I know it's gonna be awesome.



GreenGuy23 -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 19:16:53)

Don't get the above Archmage thing, but I honestly can't wait! I know that Verly has great things in mind, and is working hard on it, so even if I have to wait until 2016 I know I'll love the revamp!



133spider -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 20:06:41)

@GreenGuy23
Archmage was(probably still to this day) a most wanted class in the Original AQ that still hasn't been released yet
IIRC, it's been 7 years since the first news relating Archmage (There was a preview of it in 2011)




Brasca123 -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 20:56:12)

just to explain a bit more than what 133spider said, archmage is for sure the most wanted class in AQ, that has been in development for years, and that the development has stopped many times and started anew and had to be changed because balance changed and lv cap changed and lots of things changed and now the guy that was working on it (kalanyr) is getting a PhD, so the development came to a halt

in other words, flashbang just said a joke about ranger becoming a super expected class that is going to be expected for a seriously long time with no idea on when it's going to be finished, which is clearly not the case here, it's just a good joke using another AE game as reference



Rorshach -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 21:56:37)

A Ranger is far from a long-range sniping - Legolas being the referenced example. Long-range sniping would be a crossbow-er. And if one merely uses a bow for mid-to-long-range attacks, then that's an Archer. Hope the whole terminology thingy clears things up a bit.

^ ArchMage's guy also left (Lord Barrius).

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Well... If Verly is working on the concept... It's gon' be OP. Can't wait :D
It's not going to be OP-ed. If it was, something is clearly wrong. It would be balanced.



Mystical Warrior -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 22:05:34)

I always thought that crossbowmen are more for short ranged fights because of the reason that they can't adjust the strength of the weapon most of the time. Unless we are talking about ballista level-like crossbows.

@GASKAL IIRC Lord Barrius isn't the one responsible for ArchMage. I think its was Kalanyr



GreenGuy23 -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/18/2015 22:59:29)

@Gaskal What if he was to balance it to a Verly Quest? That's a new type of OP. DoomKnight level. verly pls scal it too yur quest lvl pls pls



Rorshach -> RE: =DF= Ranger Discussion Thread (8/19/2015 5:10:05)

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With a crossbow, archers could release a draw force far in excess of what they could have handled with a bow. Furthermore, the crossbow could hold the tension for a long time, whereas even the strongest longbowman could only hold a drawn bow for so long. The ease of use of a crossbow allows it to be used effectively with little training, while other types of bows take far more skill to fire accurately. The disadvantage is the greater weight and clumsiness compared to a bow, as well as the slower rate of shooting and the lower efficiency of the acceleration system, but there would be reduced elastic hysteresis, making the crossbow a more accurate weapon.
- Adapted from Wikipedia - Crossbows

Crossbows were the snipers of medieval because of their use of a mechanical structure compared to human muscle. Yes, there are variations to crossbows, but an archery bow cannot overpower a crossbow's pure mechanical power, along with the modifications the bolts used compared to normal arrows, these allowed them to 'snipe' any enemy more afar.

Yea, ballistas are the big ones meant for sieges.

I'm looking forward to Ranger class having a c'bow hidden within its arsenal of ranged-weaponry; used for assassination techniques/skills.



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