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yopomo -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 12:43:23)

maby uts like 1-a 2-b 3-c and so on




Nabsol -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 12:46:01)

Well, we can still attempt using a text-to-audio program. Another random guess is that on Newgrounds, a group of video makers called the clock crew use a ext to audio program instead of voce acting.




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 13:18:26)

thanks eldron
i usually forget people can edit my own post




poomaster -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 13:41:12)

wow has nobody done the first last puzzle yet?!




Verlyrus -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 14:05:17)

Wow.... after reading this page....
*facepalm*

OMOD MTW SFKYG TMG0Q W0RDAAYNLJ TM CTOFNZRJE

polyalphabetic, keyless cipher. Any ideas?


Close, so close. Alas, no cigar, and, I do like a good cigar. Let me checl with my contacts, perhaps there was a transcription error..




Goldstein -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 14:11:04)

*shrugs* No clue. Hey, I'm no Robert Langdon. Maybe...the words are mixed up...uh..."Doom ??? ????? ?????...." Eh, I don't know...




mpkillah of AQ -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 15:24:54)

maybe its three codes in one...... i read how one guy made a code by using one way, keeping it same and then using a different way, and so on until it was 99% impossible to do..... that may explain how (im pretty sure he said) eldron said we got the second part done. ???im not good at this so im guessing




Coldkick -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 18:35:45)

I made a post a page back about the idea of it beings an Alberti cipher but then eldron made a face and i didn't know if he was directing it at my idea or someone else :P




Zeth147 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/5/2009 19:52:49)

I tried the original Alberti cipher and it didn't work...although I didnt go through every single letter...




Megaket Genevus -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 8:14:23)

I was thinking that maybe there would be an answer in something Eldron/Falerin would have written, so I headed to the ezine, and found one written by both Falerin and Eldron. I must say, I was stuck to the story rather than to finding clues. It was great reading, but it was rather a normal story than a clue...

Also, When it comes to the a-1, b-2 system, it only works to get DOOM Out of the first sentence. Maybe it is a different puzzle per sentence?




Eldron -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 9:33:30)

I've given all your work up to this point to our crack team of cryptographers.

I was correct in my assumption that there was a transcription error. So much for a crack team!

The good news is that you are really close.

They have agreed that the message reads:

O M O D M T W S F K Y G T M G 0 Q W 0 R D A A Y N L J G Q C T O F N Z R J E

Beyond that, they are totally lost. Keep going we need to have this decoded!

In the mean time, I'm hungry, maybe a salad will help me think!




bushwitch -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 10:28:14)

hmmm I might have an idea - not too sure, but seeing that we only have two numerical characters in the string if one were lined up under the other that may give the key - will do a bit of longhand checking of this - I might be way off track with my line of thinking




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 10:37:07)

i think the salad thing might be important because it is random




Traveler -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 10:56:05)

Mayhap you would like a Caesar salad, Eldron?




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 11:08:30)

thats what i thought




Lucidar -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 13:40:55)

This looks like a big fat hint that just seems to scream ”It’s a Caesar Cipher!”





neomaster911 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 13:47:07)

@ lucidar

But then how do we know the shift?

http://www.iidc.indiana.edu/cedir/kidsweb/1-10.gif
This may be of use.




FireFly_14 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 13:54:01)

i tried using the frequency method but since its a short message it doesnt work on it. Also the presence of 2 numbers in the sequence seems to suggest it might not be a simple ceasar cipher.

O M O D M T W S F K Y G T M G 0 Q W 0 R D A A Y N L J G Q C T O F N Z R J E

o = 3
m = 3
d = 2
t = 3
w = 2
s = 1
f = 2
k = 1
y = 2
g = 3
q = 2
r = 2
a = 2
l = 1
j = 2
n = 2
c = 1
z = 1
e = 1


Simple? I'm sorry I don't know that word.




Eldron -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 13:59:58)

Seek what you have already found. The clues will guide you.




goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 14:12:37)

im probably wrong but does this mean
we havethe ansewer we just don't know it




bosco345 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 15:30:59)

time to go back to basic mathematics [:D]




Megaket Genevus -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 15:33:25)

Within The Caesar cipher then
O M O D M T W S F K Y G T M G 0 Q W 0 R D A A Y N L J G Q C T O F N Z R J E
would be translated like this:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
Goes
D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A B C

Which turns
O M O D M T W S F K Y G T M G 0 Q W 0 R D A A Y N L J G Q C T O F N Z R J E
into
R P R G P W Z V I N B J W P J 0 T Z 0 U G D D B Q O M J T F W R I Q C U M H

But we do still have these numbers.

Fear not.

"The encryption can also be represented using modular arithmetic by first transforming the letters into numbers, according to the scheme, A = 0, B = 1,..., Z = 25. Encryption of a letter x by a shift n can be described mathematically as,
[image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/b/b/b/bbb819c72cda43180d98e6ade5cadb04.png[/image]
Decryption is performed similarly,
[image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/d/7/9/d7959a1a4e5af0c29600d66a7fac615b.png[/image]
(There are different definitions for the modulo operation. In the above, the result is in the range 0...25. I.e., if x+n or x-n are not in the range 0...25, we have to subtract or add 26.)"

That's as far as I can help.

Edit: Also, I could be completely off track, so I'll let you figure out the most until my brain can work to its fullest. The way to decipher the numbers are just an example, it haven't been figured out yet.

Also, according to the A = 0, B = 1 system, then it would be

R P R G P W Z V I N B J W P J A T Z A U G D D B Q O M J T F W R I Q C U M H

"I'm curious of the answer because I don't know what the question is."-Father'o'mine




twinflare -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 16:02:01)

I think i read enough but im new and i cant seem to find the puzzle?can sumone link it?




Bob147 -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 16:14:07)

Hrm I put it thru a binary translater and it seems to say somting that is Regestered trade mark

·-kqÚµµí[G°-ýrÂ×­k ÚеokFv�÷\¶¬ë{^µ�mzÜ°-®F·�




Verlyrus -> RE: =WF= A Final Mystery (7/6/2009 16:26:02)

*cough*
It is a keyless polyalphabetic cipher. The Caesar cipher is only a keyless monoalphabetic.

dont forget the clue: "The key to the deaf is that of the blind duplexed"




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