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Angels Holocaust -> Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 19:50:21)

Lately I've been noticing threads where players complain about 2 vs 2. I for one usually don't give a crap about the mode but decided to try it out for the fun of it and see what happens. I was horrified to see bad match ups where I faced two lv 33 varium mercs with a lv 28 non varium partner. Other times players just disconnect for the hell of it. This mode is seriously unbalanced. How come the devs continue to ignore it for two years straight? I really want to see this mode fixed. The solution is to allow us to link partners. This travesty has been going on forever, we need to see it stopped once and for all.

Oh yeah that's another reason why the forums have been in such a troll mode, the game is getting everyone angry. People are losing for no reason, we have no control over the statistics of this game and to make matters worse we can't even choose our partners. I'm surprised that the Devs allowed us to link partners against boss npcs, seeing as how they love seeing us complain.



Sageofpeace -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 19:55:18)

i use to love 2vs2 since it wasn't require to have the best equipment to win but now not even with the best to win you need a partner level 32 and up even when you are a level 33



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 19:58:14)

2v2's main issue is that the power level is that its Player a then five levels within them then your partenr can be within 5 levels of player B hows level is descided by you then play D is five levels within player C

this allows for some pretty messed up fights



Wootz -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 19:59:30)

I though I'd be dead when I agree with your post.

I just battled two lvl 33 Full geared varium with a noobish lvl 27 partner.
So much of 2v2 Championship today e.e



Bunshichi -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 20:04:43)

I've won many matches vs 2 full 33 varium partners :o but its still annoying.



ND Mallet -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 20:06:25)

http://twitter.com/#!/Titan_EpicDuel/status/84257821562109952

Linking isn't go to be implemented for 2vs2 or Juggernaut. So what other way is there to fix balance, lower level ranges? Still will be unfair since you still end up with two 33s against a 33 and lower level. Same level only? Good luck finding a battle without waiting 15 minutes or so in between matches. Sadly, nothing can really be done about disconnecting players. I did hear a rumor once that you are one of those players if you get a non varium partner or low level against higher levels. Personally, I almost never have a problem with disconnecting players unless it's by lag which rarely happens anyways. And if I get a low level partner then all you need to do is hope they take out your partner while you let loose with full damage towards one enemy. If you hit hard enough you can even take out one of them before they get your partner.



Lectrix -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 21:41:15)

I doubt we'll ever be able to link partners for 2v2 or Juggernaut, since you'd be facing actual Players who will likely be placed at a disadvantage if they are randomly placed together.

The maximum 5 Level difference seems a bit extreme; I wouldn't mind seeing it lowered to 3.



Hun Kingq -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 21:47:17)

Because Blood Mage has no reroute they really can't compete in 2vs2 anymore because once our energy is gone that's it so only thing we could use in 2vs2 is strikes, sidearm, aux, and energy bot for debuff because we have to save energy for healing so having all those powerful skills in 2vs2 is useless.



ND Mallet -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 22:01:56)

@Hun The best way to win a 2vs2 is to make the other team lose one guy. That's pretty easy for a BM to do if they have a partner with smoke, malf or field commander. I can take out some players in 3-4 hits without any help.



xxmirxx -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 22:13:04)

We do need fix 2vs2 it has been problem since ED first introduced 2vs2. I have great idea why not choose are partners. Like we do in 2vs1 boss mode. Do you guys think we should or should not? Please explain why as well lets discuss my idea.



DillBagel -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 22:24:33)

Linking is not the answer to fixing 2v2. It my be your answer (angels) because it would help you win much more easily, but it doesn't help anyone else.Two level 28s that were matched aren't going to stand a chance against two linked 33s. Congratulations, your linking will make the mode worse.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 22:50:54)

first off. 2 vs 2 does need to be fixxed.
a way to fix this is, to have partner linking. and have the lvls combined
then the range would still be 5.
so f 2 lvl 33s partner up. the lvl would be 66 total.
their enemies should be 61 or more in lvls combined
this makes it more fair so that 2 33s dont pair up against 2 lvl 28s

ANOTHER thing that is a MUST DO
is to never have any faction mates as ur enemy.
this goes for 1 vs 1 aswell.
if ur fighting in 2 vs 2 or 1 vs 1 there is no reason for ur faction to get a loss because ur enemy is ur faction mate.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 23:16:45)

2v2 is a death trap u go into 2v2 and u will just experience hell oh and super noobs also not forgetting afk morons and also disappearing partners too. the lvl difference sux and it always laggy and yet the devs still ignore us. yes this tread will be ignore like most 2v2 threads. 2v2 players are nothing to the devs we r just toys for the devs. 2v2 faction are also ignored by devs as expected. because the devs really hate 2v2. the balance of 2v2 is also far worse in comparison with 1v1.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 23:20:48)

I'm starting to believe that too Luna, they don't ever address the issue, instead they deny all of these facts and say it's all right. They honestly think that we're 4 or something, there is a huge problem with this mode and it has to be fixed not avoided like global warming.



Wootz -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 23:23:04)

Heh,
My buddy Battle Elf went for 2vs2 championship today,
He lost and /ragequit'd because some douchebag decided to not let anyone get that achievment,
And it's 5 AM atm, and I stayed up all night to be with ma bud,
And we got ripped off.
Yeah, good thing.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 23:42:48)

callisto made a thread about 2v2 balance about 1 week ago. now the tread can never be seen it is some how magically disappeared. that a hint that the devs are not caring bout their 2v2 players because if i remembered there were loads of great suggestions on how to improve 2v2 on that thread. this tread will magically disappear too *cough* the devs still deny anything and everything that got to do with 2v2 *cough* 2v2ers are always thrown under the bus because there are not enuf seat in the Epicduel bus for us.

also @ goldsalyer1

nice idea on making a filter for faction filter in 2v2 and 1v1. in 2v2 if u see faction X + faction Y vs faction X + faction Z = either person from faction Y loses his partner or the person from faction Z loses his partner it is called "unexpected DC" u know when a person presses F5 deliberately. that is why faction filter is a must in 2v2.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 23:51:28)

Don't forget, if we are allowed to link our partners. 2 vs 2 factions will be a lot more intense.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/27/2011 23:54:55)

true and they will never do such a thing because with linking 2v2er can start to dummy and that is kinda bad. so i do not support the link idea.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 0:02:54)

@ Luna, how do they dummy?



DillBagel -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 0:07:31)

Faction 2v2 matches could end up stupid.
Two sets of linked faction members join, and no matter the outcome, the faction gets two wins. That's ridiculous.



Angels Holocaust -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 0:08:33)

@ DillBagel

You are so right, that's why we should never allow team mates to enter battle against each other.



DeathSpawn -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 1:14:59)

Just a thought...

Maybe if you guys don't like it then don't play?

I seem to do just fine. Sure there's the occasional unfair match up but that makes it all the more exciting when you win :)

If you can't win that's your problem. Leave 2v2 be!



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 1:17:10)

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Faction 2v2 matches could end up stupid.
Two sets of linked faction members join, and no matter the outcome, the faction gets two wins. That's ridiculous.

well getting 1 win and 1 loss at the same time from 1 match is also ridiculous.

quote:

nice idea on making a filter for faction filter in 2v2 and 1v1. in 2v2 if u see faction X + faction Y vs faction X + faction Z = either person from faction Y loses his partner or the person from faction Z loses his partner it is called "unexpected DC" u know when a person presses F5 deliberately. that is why faction filter is a must in 2v2.

yeah cause it sucks when like half of my faction is online in the same server and u just keep fighting faction mates after faction mates.



edwardvulture -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 1:25:12)

Nah when a person leaves in a 2 on 2, it makes 2 people happy, makes the other mad, and the person that leaves can do something refreshing. So yeah mostly a win lolz.



Minus123 -> RE: Seriously Fix 2 v 2 (7/28/2011 8:01:03)

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Maybe if you guys don't like it then don't play?

I seem to do just fine. Sure there's the occasional unfair match up but that makes it all the more exciting when you win :)


You might win, but not everyone does. People on this thread like luna and angels are only trying to get the devs attention to fix 2 vs 2, which is clearly flawed given the reasons above.

Anyway, I like the idea of having a lvl gap of only 3, instead of 5. Sure as heck is better being paired with a 30 than a 28.



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