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lightriftwalker122 -> FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 15:15:19)

continuation of the last thread . i wonder what the skills will be like?



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monstervet -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 15:25:49)

Im guessing most if not all the attacks will require you to slowly drain the enemies spirit, it seems like it.

Just guessing of course, once you feed on aegis im guessing it will become a necessity or perhaps feed when you can thing.

Personally i think soul smith can be the more interesting class, or whatever it is or will be.




gakorogirl -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 15:44:13)

We have a ten-page lock now? Or is it just longer for War threads?

Personally one of the several reasons I'm against it is that it would be bizarrely OOC for our mostly Good-affiliated Hero to suddenly turn on an ally and kill them in the most horrible way to gain a few powers, and it would probably cause them to turn insane and/or evil, which staff has already confirmed won't happen.

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soulus42 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 15:58:41)

Hmmm, admittedly I am rather tempted to sacrifice Aegis for Fleshweaver. Also curious if this will have any impact outside of being locked out of soulweaving.




Plendamonda2 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 16:50:07)

I thought I might try to clear some things up, at least the way I understand it so far.

Fleshweaver (& consuming Aegis) would be optional (not forced on everybody) if it was made.

To be a Soulweaver you need a SoulAlly, to be a Chaosweaver you need a *Corrupted SoulAlly.
Canonically we have Aegis (who isn't corrupted) so Chaosweaver class would have to be non-canon.

I'm guessing that it doesn't matter if your SoulAlly is corrupted or not for Soulsmiths and Fleshweavers,
except that with Fleshweavers you have to consume your SoulAlly.
(when Roirr possessed Vaal he had to consume Alraia to become/gain-access-to a Fleshweaver abilities.

Was it actually confirmed anywhere that Roirr is the only Fleshweaver? It seems most weavers have heard
of Murks at least, Surely everything characters (in game) have heard about Murks wasn't just about one guy.

I don't really remember the Ravenloss Sage in book 1 but after playing the Tomix Saga in Book 3,
Aegis seems like a pretty cool guy. Not sure if I would eat him to be a Fleshweaver but I was never
really interested in Soulweaver, so I would be willing to give up that class. ... I'd like to know more
about Fleshweavers but so far I would like it to be made an option (so long as it isn't too much work)

I feel like I had more to say when I decided I would make this post (rather than lurk) but meh.

-I just got back into Dragonfable after a very long break and had to catch up on almost all of Book 3,
so I may have missed/forgotten a lot of stuff.




GreenGuy23 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 17:01:59)

I just voted on the last post, for Fleshweaver. Honestly I'm completely and totally against me, personally, using the class (on my main, definitely will use on my secondary), but if others want to use it, what right do I have to stop them? I might use It, yes, but NEVER will I sacrifice Aegis on my main.

ANYWAY, back to the main topic. Honestly, skillwise, I think most of the skills would be thing like Explosion (Explode the enemy form the inside) and Rip (Rip the Flesh from the Enemy's bones) plus what Roirr has. I dunno if anyone else noticed, but I certainly noticed that The FleshWeaver's skills seemed to be red clones of SoulWeaver's skills.

On the idea of skills, before I can come up with what I think more of the skills will be, I have to get some more lore on it, honestly. I think the class (FW) poses GREAT potential for some awesome moves. For SoulSmith, honestly, I don't think we'll see that as a class, mainly because it doesn't REALLY sound that good for fighting. Like people have stated before, an upgrade to BlackSmithing would be awesome, especially if we got to make so really cool weapons with it. What if we had to max out SoulSmithing to get Fleshweaver O.o? Sounds pretty cool. Also, what if maxing SoulSmith let us make an upgraded version of the SoulClaws for SW and MSW?

On the topic of the plane, Maybe a quest or two in the plane would satisfy people's thirst to see the Plane? Traveling through the Plane to get somewhere will NEVER be possible, people, so please, stop bringing it up people. There's a reason the Travel Griffin exists.


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Daimyo Daimyo -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 18:25:05)

You guys are really hyping this huh... Then again, it's natural for people to get excited over new things and change their interests. One week you'll love something but then next week something newer and better will come out and you'll start liking that instead. Humans are such fickle beings.

Like for example, what happened to that Kathool YOU CANNOT RESIST phase, Lightriftwalker?




Almighty Agathor -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 18:32:49)

Its not a bad idea of a class, and I feel that it is a nice change of pace to choose a dark path, if you wish too. To be honest, I am actually starting to change my views. I HATE that I would have to kill Aegis to gain the class, but I MAY do so, if we dont have Aegis in a storyline after we have the choice to consume him. After all, he is one of the Hero's closest friends. Id say just as close as our pet dragons.




Christophoses -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 18:35:02)

@^

It's a beautiful sight to see more and more people join the dark side. Remember, we have cookies! Red, fleshy, bloody delicious cookies.




Tomix and Ash have been rather quite in this discussion. Right after we were told about the conditions to wielding this power, they didn't comment anything else.




Alm Nullamors -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 18:35:50)

As someone who doesn't use Soulweaver anymore, there won't be any lasting drawbacks in this for me. I'll just close my eyes and click like mad through the Yes cutscene anyway.




Daimyo Daimyo -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 18:44:03)

Oh boy, I think you all have let the flesh get to your head. Next thing you know, you'll be asking to be able to perform Forbidden Magicks as class skills or want an Infernal Wargoth class so you can burn Lore to ashes.




Christophoses -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 18:46:40)

@^

The era of "the good hero" is over. Now everyone wants to be bad.




Daimyo Daimyo -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 18:59:09)

Some people are just asking to become residents of the Third Floor Rose Prison.




Chaoshaper -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 19:23:22)

What would this mean for the hero's allies in Ravenloss? I doubt they would want anything to do with someone who consumed their spirit ally, who promised to protect them at all costs and vice versa. With the exception of the guy who calls the Hero 'Master', i dont think anyone would consider you an ally any more.




Gingkage -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 19:23:28)

Okay. That is enough.

The evil roleplaying and borderline spam posts with content that is primarily 'Fleeessshhh' stop. Now.

I have deleted several posts that were either rude in tone, had nothing to do with the topic, were spam, or any combination of the three. Calling forum members stupid is not tolerated. It will not ever be tolerated. Do not do so again.

This class is not confirmed. Tomix has said he can make it happen. Can. Not will. Please stop assuming that simply because he has said it is possible that it means it will happen.

Consider this notice of deletion.

~Gingkage




lightriftwalker122 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 19:23:29)

i wonder how SoulSmith will work? Would the soulally speak through the blade or is it primarilly for defense? i wonder how Lanrete fights? Will the Soul Forge be used soon or with a Soulsmith Class? Ok thanks for reminding us Gingkage.




W.A.R.Z. -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 19:26:24)

I blame the Baron for what he did to Serenity, making us want to be more powerful so that we never lose anything ever again, or...


Edit:
Had evil roleplaying here but I started the post before the warning




Brasca123 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 19:54:42)

well, the fleshweaver thing is basically an evil choice for the good hero, it's been said pretty clearly that the hero is a good guy before, it'd be too strange for the hero to make a choice that's so obviously evil as that one, i do understand that some people want more choice in game and some feel of power out of it, but from what we know so far it would be completely against the hero's ideals to actually become a fleshweaver, so overall, my opinion is still the same, it should not be implemented, the hero is not someone that would sacrifice one of his friends for power

i don't really care about the locking other forms of weaving thing, i haven't even unlocked SW, cause i won't really use it, but it'd be nice if supposing it is made, since tomix said it is possible, if non-cannon weaving, like CW would be locked out




Christophoses -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 20:06:54)

To be honest I don't really care if I wouldn't be able to use soulweaver anymore. The class was never really a tank, so I have no issue with giving it up to be able to use Fleshweaver. However, what happens to those who have Baltael's Aventail? This artifact wasn't easy to farm and it would be a real shame for it to go to waste. Maybe there could be a Fleshweaver artifact that you could obtain by trading in the soulweaver artifact.




GreenGuy23 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 20:30:18)

@Chris what if you could trade Baltael's Aventail for a Chaosweaver Artifact? Maybe if you trained up SoulSmithing (assuming my idea above stands) and Merged out the BA for a CW artifact if you add about 2,000 gold and some special item. Then, max out SoulSmith, and Merge the CW Artifact with 5,000 gold and some rare/special item to get a FW Artifact. Then, maybe, if you wanted to swtch back, use the same items to reverse it. All up to how AE wants to go through it. Maybe they won't even have a way of carrying it over, I dunno know. Just some thoughts.




Meloette Wells -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 20:38:04)

Had to pop on real quick when I heard the price for a Fleshweaver class was losing Aegis as our SoulAlly...

I must admit, it's rather interesting to see how the divergent paths of the Fleshwoven hero's and the un-fleshwoven hero's timelines would play out, story wise. Seeing if the 'ol Tomix Saga crew reunite, We'll would have eatten a member for more power. This causing question from the other crew mates as they consider just what kind of hero we're truly are. To consider the fact we may make a chose akin to the power-thristy Doom Knights




Aura Knight -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 20:38:29)

Soul smith sounds interesting. I'm especially excited about the whole, placing elemental spirits in weapons. Sounds like something off Shaman King, but that seems too off-topic. As for fleshweaver, I don't think we can decide anything. Sometimes great power requires even greater sacrifice but I have a feeling devouring our soul ally is not something our character could do since we're not evil. At least it doesn't seem like we are, but there's always a chance. In the end, it would probably depend on how powerful the class could be compared to soulweaver.




VJ -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 20:53:51)

I could never harm my soul ally, I guess wish there was a different way, maybe find another one that can be consumed instead?
or something like that.




Brasca123 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 20:55:28)

oh yeah, forgot to put it in my last post, but if it's something we can choose, that means the staff would have more work on releases, because they would have to make different cutscenes whenever aegis was supposed to appear, some people already said that before, maybe even i did, but i think it's a good thing to remember, so i'm putting it here again, just another reason for not wanting fleshweaver

edit: just to remind, tomix said it twice already, IF it is implemented it will be cannon, AND we will have to consume aegis, not any other soul

also, for those that were wondering about secundus, IIRC it would not be cannon, as it would be CW soul ally, and CW is non-cannon




GreenGuy23 -> RE: FleshWeaver and Soul Smith Class II (4/30/2015 21:15:12)

@Brasca OR, Instead, they can not put the Fleshweaver class access until after the qusts with aegis are completely done and completed, not requiring him in cutscenes anymore.




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