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The Fire Paradigm


Access Point: Unvoided Ravenloss (Book 3) -> 2 Down -> Left -> Up Left -> Up -> Wait 22 seconds for a red portal to appear -> Enter...,
Access Point: Click Fire Paradigm Portal
Requirements: Completion of Tomix's Saga Epilogue
Release Date: January 26th, 2018

Quests Available
Secundus
Valour

Wisdom
Detachment
Honesty
Poise
Mettle
Perfection

Blue Vial
Valour

NPCs
Aegis
Elpis
Secundus

Shops
Chaosweaver (Shop)
Chaosweaver Items
Chaosweaver Upgrades
Paradigm Portal
Mote of Threads (Shop)

Aegis
Thread of Fate

Elpis
Mote of Hope (Shop)

Secundus
Mote of Power (Shop)

Dialogue
Secundus and Piotr

Secundus
(Normal)

Secundus: Whether you followed my threads, stumbled upon this place accidentally or... cheated, it doesn't matter.

Secundus: You are mine now.

  • Talk
    Secundus: Speak.
    • Where am I?
      Secundus: The Fire Paradigm of the Plane of Elemental Spirits. Before you ask, yes, you are here in a material form. I made this possible just for you. Or I didn't. Does it matter?

    • Who are you?
      Secundus: I'm Secundus. The Elemental Spirit of Duality. I will be your owner... or I will not. I will teach you many things. Or I won't. Fleshweaving being one of them. Or not.

    • Fire Paradigm
      Secundus: The ever changing, shall we say, region of the Plane of Elemental Spirits. A region specifically for spirits attuned to fire. It's not really a hard to grasp concept...

    • Fleshweaving
      Secundus: The pinnacle of all weaving techniques. Transform your own flesh, painlessly, into whatever you desire.
      Secundus: Become one with multiple elemental spirits and summon their essence on a whim. Become... what the First Weaver was. What the art of weaving was meant to be. Or don't.

    • Plane of Elemental Spirits
      Secundus: You would like to know how it was created, correct? Very well. Before Tanislav's Last Will was used, it was a mostly uninhabited plane of existence, one of many more like it.
      Secundus: The ritual, used for the first time, shook the very balance of the fabric of space, creating a link between the plane we call Lore...
      Secundus: ... and the one we now call the Plane of Elemental Spirits.
      Secundus: You would not comprehend how exactly Elemental Spirits were able to traverse into the plane most of them now call home, so I will not explain it. Or I will. It depends.

    • Who is this boy?
      Secundus: Piotr, my protégé. You will become like him. Or you will not. It doesn't matter. Even if I won't have you... I'll still have him.

      Secundus: My fair-haired boy.

    • Where is Char?
      Secundus: You mean the soulweaver boy who lived in that house?

      Secundus: He and his brother are fine. You don't have to worry about them...

    • You're here? - appears only after completing 'Accept' in Valour and after completing 'Consume' in Perfection.
      <Character>: How... am I seeing you? Aren't we—
      Secundus: We are now one, that is true... but that doesn't mean I wanted to be fully assimilated.
      Secundus: It appears that being an amalgam has its benefits.
      Secundus: I simply thought of not losing my form, whilst still merging with you.

      Secundus: And that's what happened.
      Secundus: But you don't have to believe that.
      Secundus: What matters most is that we are together.
      Secundus: We're going to do great things, hero.

    • Piotr? - appears only after completing 'Accept' in Valour and after completing 'Consume' in Perfection.
      Secundus: It appears that my lesser vessel has... left the paradigm.
      Secundus: This is not ideal.
      Secundus: He's unfinished.
      Secundus: He doesn't know the true extent of who a Fleshweaver should be, he's yet to understand the particulars of who he is now.
      Secundus: I don't want my teachings being used in a non-controlled environment.
      Secundus: He needs to be found.
  • Portal Shop - opens Paradigm Portal shop.

  • Memory Fragments
    Secundus: Before I can commit to training you as a Fleshweaver, you need to return to me fragments of my lost memories. All seven of them.
  • Fleshweaver (DA Required) - begins Valour quest; has pop-ups if the requirements are not met:
    • No Dragon Amulet: A Dragon Amulet is required to train Fleshweaver.
    • Below Level 70: 'The time is not yet right. You need more... experience.' (Training Fleshweaver requires level 70)
    • If all 7 distinct Memory Fragments were not turned in order: You must first return Secundus' Memory Fragments.
  • Chaosweaver
    Secundus: I can see that someone has already trained you as a chaosweaver. You simply didn't have the proper equipment to look the part.
    Secundus: It would be my pleasure to provide you with the tools suited for one such as yourself.
    Secundus
    (after completion of 'Accept' in Valour)

    As original options, but 'Fleshweaver' gains additional dialogue and options:
  • Fleshweaver
    Secundus: I cannot wait to see what you will or won't become.

  • Equip Fleshweaver - equips Fleshweaver.
  • Consume - requires Fleshweaver to be equipped; shows Choices text box prior to completion of Wisdom.
    • Wisdom
      Secundus: Wisdom. Wisdom and intelligence are two completely different things.
      Secundus: One can be wise, but stupid. And one can be sharp and astute, but dimwitted.
      Secundus: You are neither.
      Secundus: Oh, don't make that face. As amusing as it was to watch you stumble up until this point, we have to remedy that.
      Secundus: My aim is to better you. And I'm devoted to doing so.
      Secundus: There is an Elemental Spirit that is bonded to a friend of yours. Izaac.

      Secundus: This individual is suffering from an incurable void sickness, if you remember.
      Secundus: What if I told you… you can help cure him.
      Secundus: Consume Salla, his SoulAlly, and Izaac will have a chance to recover.

      Secundus: Or don't. It's your choice.
      Secundus: Ravenloss. His and his spouse's house. Be on your way.
      • Consume - begins Wisdom quest.

    • Detachment
      Secundus: Detachment. An attribute foreign to you. If anything, you care too much, too deeply.
      Secundus: It is your crutch. Something we have to fix.
      Secundus: A true hero knows boundaries, but also knows how to break them…
      Secundus: Knows how to separate personal feelings from what needs to be done in any given situation.
      Secundus: Oyva will be the one to instill it in you.
      Secundus: Your destination is Edelia. A shell of what was once a Soulweaving foundation.

    • Honesty
      Secundus: Honesty. Have you ever lied? Don't answer that, of course you have, even if you didn't know it.

      Secundus: Or you did.
      Secundus: If you tell a lie, but you don't know that you're telling a lie, is it still a lie?
      Secundus: Malus is… peculiar. Unrestrained. Much like honesty. Simple, yet brutally blunt. You'll see.
      Secundus: They are in the Darkness Paradigm. Go.

    • Poise
      Secundus: Poise. I have seen how you carry yourself. Brash. Loud.

      Secundus: Lacking certain equilibrium.
      Secundus: These are not qualities of the hero I want you to be. The hero Lore needs you to be.
      Secundus: Consuming Hiraeth will remedy that.
      Secundus: I'll open the Water Paradigm pathway to you. She is there, mourning.
      • Consume - begins Poise quest.

    • Mettle
      Secundus: Mettle. You already exhibit, somewhat, this attribute.

      Secundus: But not enough. I have seen you falter, multiple times. Even for a second.
      Secundus: A true hero would never falter, never second guess themselves.
      Secundus: That's what I expect of you.

      Secundus: That's what Lore needs of you.
      Secundus: Forto, the perfect candidate to make you stronger, is currently in the Energy Paradigm.
      Secundus: He's a… feisty one.

      Secundus: And I think he'll surprise you.
      • Consume - begins Mettle quest.

    • Perfection
      Secundus: ...
      Secundus: A true hero cannot be one dimensional. Nothing is ever truly white or black.
      Secundus: Absolutely nothing.
      Secundus: Never view the world that we were allowed to live in in extremities, <Character>.
      Secundus: The grand weave is to be experienced through the shades of gray and subtlety.
      Secundus: Now stand before me, tall and resplendent, Fleshweaver.
  • Rewrite History - has a warning unless the player owns Mote of Threads / if the player owns Mote of Threads, changes The Fire Paradigm's state of Aegis and Elpis:
    quote:

    Confirmation:

    Are you sure that you want to rewrite history? You will relinquish Fleshweaver and will have to regather the Memory Fragments...

    Yes - Fleshweaver is removed; if 'Consume' option was picked in Perfection, Secundus returns back to normal and Piotr returns to the Fire Paradigm; SoulWeaver and Aegis (2) is restored.
    No

  • Mote Shop - opens Mote of Power (Shop).

  • Mote Merge - opens Mote of Threads (Shop).



    Aegis and Elpis
    (after completion of 'Refuse' in Valour)


    Aegis

    Aegis: Hey <Character>! This place is a little too hot for me... but I'll stay here with you in mind!

  • Invite Aegis - invites Aegis (3) as Guest A.

  • Thread of Fate - opens Thread of Fate shop.

  • Rewrite History - has a warning unless the player owns Mote of Threads/ if the player owns Mote of Threads, changes The Fire Paradigm's state of translucent Secundus:

    quote:

    Confirmation:

    Are you sure that you want to rewrite history? You will have to regather the Memory Fragments...

    Yes - Secundus and Piotr returns to The Fire Paradigm and Aegis (3) becomes locked.
    No

  • Talk
    Aegis: I'm all ears! Which is weird, since I don't have them!
    • How are you?
      Aegis: I'm... feeling amazing, actually! Have you heard what Elpis said?
      Aegis: Our bond is so closely tight, so entangled, we can become SoulMates! Whatever that means, hah!
      Aegis: Just say the word and I'll come to your side instantly! Our bond is so strong, no future obstacle will ever untangle it!
      Aegis: Did you see what I... we could be, even for a little bit? I've never felt so... whole. To you, with you. So... us! I'd love to feel this way again! Please!
      Aegis: Let's be us!

    • Elpis?
      Aegis: They are... around.
      Aegis: Honestly, being in close proximity to them fills me with... joy. Like I can do anything! Anything I put my mind to!
      Aegis: It's so weird... but refreshing! A weird, but fun feeling!
      Aegis: But...
      Aegis: Looking at them—
      Aegis: Nevermind.
    Elpis

    Elpis: Hello... dear friend.

  • Chaosweaver
    Elpis: You already are a Chaosweaver. Tomix trained you, thinking that was what Soulweaving was supposed to be.
    Elpis: Don't worry. I can create for you tools to make you feel like a proper Chaosweaver. Courtesy of Pandora's memories.
  • Mote Shop - opens Mote of Hope (Shop).

  • Mote Merge - opens Mote of Threads (Shop).

  • Portal Shop - opens Paradigm Portal shop.

  • Talk
    Elpis: Please, ask away. I'm sure you have questions.
    • Elpis?
      <Character>: So... you're Elpis.
      Elpis: That's correct.
      <Character>: Can you tell me more about... you?
      Elpis: Of course.
      Elpis: As Tomix, with Pandora's and Aspar's essences perished, we were born.
      Elpis: We formed in vast nothingness. It took a while to realize... what we were.
      Elpis: Getting our bearings was... tumultuous.
      Elpis: The term 'identity crisis' comes to mind.
      Elpis: We didn't know if there has ever been an amalgam of such three different selves in... one self.
      Elpis: It took a considerable time and effort to remain as a self. To acknowledge our... situation.
      Elpis: But we are ourselves now.

      Elpis: And it feels right.
      Elpis: Tomix, Pandora and Aspar are now... us. I don't know how to describe it, apologies.
      Elpis: Grudges, goals, experiences, memories, those happy and sad.
      Elpis: Everything they were then, we are now, resolved, understood, gone through.
      Elpis: Aspar's identity was the last we as a whole fully understood.
      Elpis: So much grief, resentment and jealousy.

      Elpis: But we are whole now.
      Elpis: We are Elpis, we are Hope.
      Elpis: And we stand with you, <Character>.
      <Character>: So if I wanted to talk to Tomix, you–
      Elpis: We're sorry, but he does not exist anymore.
      Elpis: Tomix is gone, <Character>.
      Elpis: We are Elpis.
      <Character>: ...
      <Character>: Okay...

    • Piotr?
      <Character>: I think Piotr left, in all of the commotion.
      Elpis: Yes.

      Elpis: Which is not ideal.
      Elpis: It means there is still a Fleshweaver existing. Secundus' legacy will continue to spread through him.
      Elpis: We cannot stop it.
      Elpis: This worries us... but it's not something we can fix at this moment.
      Elpis: We must be vigilant, <Character>.
      Elpis: Fleshweaving should not be taken lightly. It should not be taught.
      Elpis: But it will be. Through him.
      Elpis: It is not the pinnacle of weaving. Weaving wasn't supposed to be consuming Elemental Spirits to become better as a shortcut.
      Elpis: It is a corruption of all weaving techniques that were supposed to be an artisan craft.
      Elpis: He needs to be found.


    Blue Vial
    (appears after owning Mote of Threads)

  • Relive Valour - begins Valour quest.



    Other information
  • Piotr may be found here, but he has no dialogue.
  • Certain NPCs will disappear depending on which path is chosen in Valour.
    • 'Refuse': Piotr and Secundus will disappear.
    • 'Accept': If Perfection is completed with 'Consume' option chosen, Piotr will disappear, but Secundus becomes translucent.
  • If Mote of Threads was owned by the player, the first Secundus and Piotr's screen becomes inaccessible.
  • A variety of Secundus's soul vials are scattered throughout the world of DragonFable. Although these threads will not appear in your inventory, they do transcribe the hints that they bear and it is up to you to decipher them in order to discover this location on your own or learn a small tidbit about the notorious elemental spirit.
  • The Fire Paradigm was updated many times since 2019:
  • From Tomix;
    quote:

    The only way to find out what they are about is to follow their hints, piece together whatever they are trying to say and then get to the bottom of it!

    Thanks to
  • Dove for information on Secundus's soul threads.
  • DemonicDarkwraith for updated other information.

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